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Old 08-09-2022, 04:46   #1
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Submersible sensors -holding tank

Has anyone any experience of using the silicon based submersible sensors in a holding tank. I think the main issue is to keep the sensing joke clear , but maybe a gauze fitting might do

On the face of it it seems ideal

Any one tried it. , my main issue is I have a triangular tank and I donít want the sensor ending up in the outlet.
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Why not switch to a tank level monitor that uses sensors that go on the outside of the tank? SCAD monitors Scad Tank Monitors are top rated, reasonably priced, and can accommodate any tank shape.


The problem with any internal sensors is, the animal fats in waste coat them and clog them, requiring removal every year or two to clean manually with detergent, water and a scrub brush.

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Why not switch to a tank level monitor that uses sensors that go on the outside of the tank? SCAD monitors Scad Tank Monitors are top rated, reasonably priced, and can accommodate any tank shape.



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Thanks! That's better than the ones I found; and here's a source I found https://www.emarineinc.com/SCAD-TM1-TM2-Tank-Monitor

$166 for display and sensor.

BUT I found this: "SCAD internal sensor avaialbe for metal tanks" (sic) so I guess a stainless tank still has to be opened up.
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BUT I found this: "SCAD internal sensor avaialbe for metal tanks" (sic) so I guess a stainless tank still has to be opened up.

It does, but the sensor is enclosed in PVC pipe, preventing tank contents from ever coming in contact with it...so it never has to be cleaned.

However...how old is your metal tank? Steel or aluminum? 'Cuz metal is not recommended for sewage holding...hasn't been since the early '90s 'cuz urine is so corrosive that it typically turns any metal tank, even 316 SS, into a colander within about 10 years, and it doesn't matter whether the toilet uses sea water or fresh. If you haven't had a look at the inside of it, you might want to do that...you're likely to see the start of pinholes all over the bottom of it. If you do, it might be time to start shopping for a new tank.

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BUT I found this: "SCAD internal sensor avaialbe for metal tanks" (sic) so I guess a stainless tank still has to be opened up.

It does, but the sensor is enclosed in PVC pipe, preventing tank contents from ever coming in contact with it...so it never has to be cleaned.

However...how old is your metal tank? Steel or aluminum? 'Cuz metal is not recommended for sewage holding...hasn't been since the early '90s 'cuz urine is so corrosive that it typically turns any metal tank, even 316 SS, into a colander within about 10 years, and it doesn't matter whether the toilet uses sea water or fresh. If you haven't had a look at the inside of it, you might want to do that...you're likely to see the start of pinholes all over the bottom of it. If you do, it might be time to start shopping for a new tank.

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Tank is 1994 stainless. And would be a bear to remove. Thanks for the new problem to inspect, nothing else like another chore on the weekend!
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BUT I found this: "SCAD internal sensor avaialbe for metal tanks" (sic) so I guess a stainless tank still has to be opened up.

It does, but the sensor is enclosed in PVC pipe, preventing tank contents from ever coming in contact with it...so it never has to be cleaned.

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I tried the pvc tube in a metal tank and it never worked properly. They could never find a problem and sent me new ones to try. After 3 attempts to get it to work, I gave up and switched to a WEMA. Been working fine ever since (years).
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Same brand?





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Yes, it was from the guy who invented the SCAD and he was selling them on the side. Don't remember his name, but I believe he passed a few years back. (Dennis?)
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Re: Submersible sensors -holding tank

The silicon pressure transducer could be simply mounted in a pvc tube with some gauze at the end , hence solids wonít enter the sensing hole. Not that that matters once the pressure still gets through. The issue for me is that when the tank is empty the extraneous material would dry and harden

The WEMa sensor is an option I can buy a shrouded float sensor for AliExpress, this is the same as WEMA and I drill the top and fit a flushing port.

But these are discontinuous sensors with 4-5 reed switches , I want a continuous level sensor ,so itís submersible or capacitive , TI have a new capacitive sensor chip out so I might play with that
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Has anyone any experience of using the silicon based submersible sensors in a holding tank. I think the main issue is to keep the sensing joke clear , but maybe a gauze fitting might do

On the face of it it seems ideal

Any one tried it. , my main issue is I have a triangular tank and I donít want the sensor ending up in the outlet.
This should work if you can not mount something on the outside of the tank.


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That would have been Dennis. SCAD did have a private label version of his Profile gauges. Those are no longer in production since Dennis died...If you go to the SCAD website you'll se that it's now a completely different system.


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