Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 20-01-2020, 14:02   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 9
Spectra 150 Manual or Connect?

I'm about to buy a spectra 150 for our eventual cruising season in the baja. Currently in the PNW and a 50/50 chance we are here for one more winter before heading south. From what I've read maintenance is a key issue. If we go straight to Mexico this upcoming fall I'll be able to run the water maker at least once every 5 days as required. However, if we stay put for one more winter I'd rather not go down to the marina every 5 days and I'd rather not pickle if I don't have to in case we decide to shove off for some winter exploration. This is where the connect sounds promising as I can have it automatically flush every week.

Is the connect worth it or just one more complicated system to babysit? Can I upgrade an existing spectra 150 manual system in the future? Lastly, are there aftermarket automatic flushing timers for Spectra?

Willem
__________________

LaBrisa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-01-2020, 14:13   #2
Senior Cruiser
 
tkeithlu's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Carrabelle, Florida
Boat: Fiberglas shattering 44' steel trawler
Posts: 1,705
Re: Spectra 150 Manual or Connect?

Willem, I've been running a Spectra since 2012. It often sits for months without running. All I have had to do to it is run the smelly product into a jar for a few minutes until it doesn't smell, and then I've got water with fewer free ions than our city stuff. It's ice cubes for the single malt quality. I do use water from our tank for the flush cycle.

Maybe where I dock is special (Florida panhandle, darn close to pure seawater in a small river), but you might use it awhile and see just how far you need to go, relative to the specifications in the manual.
__________________

__________________
Never let anything mechanical know that you are in a hurry.
tkeithlu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-01-2020, 14:21   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 17
Re: Spectra 150 Manual or Connect?

Iím planning to use my old spectra soon. For Maintanance I intend to run a line in through a charcoal filter connected to the house water pump and a tap timer. Just leave everything in the open position so that fresh water flows through the system for about 10 minutes and is discarded. Once a week should be fine. You might need to do a little diy but heaps cheaper than the spectra solution.
Ssas5342 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-01-2020, 14:22   #4
Moderator
 
carstenb's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2012
Location: At sea in the pacific
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Fast 40.3
Posts: 5,188
Images: 1
Re: Spectra 150 Manual or Connect?

Write to Tellie (he's on this forum) He is the world's premier Spectra dealer.

WE ahve a 200T and have been suing it for 4 years. If you flush it for 4 minutes or longer you should be able to leave it for longer periods of time, although the water will smell like rotten eggs the first few minutes you use - the clear up. You probably also shorten the membrane life by not pickling or running it every weeks or so.

As far as I know there is no way to retrofit an autoflush system to the watermaker.
__________________
I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,
And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by

www.svcapri.com
carstenb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-01-2020, 14:32   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 9
Re: Spectra 150 Manual or Connect?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ssas5342 View Post
Iím planning to use my old spectra soon. For Maintanance I intend to run a line in through a charcoal filter connected to the house water pump and a tap timer. Just leave everything in the open position so that fresh water flows through the system for about 10 minutes and is discarded. Once a week should be fine. You might need to do a little diy but heaps cheaper than the spectra solution.
Interesting. This sounds very doable.
LaBrisa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-01-2020, 14:35   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 9
Re: Spectra 150 Manual or Connect?

Tkeithlu - I've seen others on this forum report similar findings who are able to leave the spectra alone for long periods of time. I know where we are in the PNW; spring growth would be the time when I would want to really stay on top of it.
LaBrisa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-01-2020, 15:04   #7
Marine Service Provider

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: St Augustine, FL
Boat: Woods Vardo 34 Cat
Posts: 3,332
Re: Spectra 150 Manual or Connect?

You're suggesting that you leave it for months in FL with no pickling?

Another forum members has mentioned 2 weeks in PNW, but your membrane must be toast after more than a month in FL.
__________________
@mojomarine1
Boatguy30 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-01-2020, 15:20   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Port Aransas, Texas
Boat: 2019 Seawind 1160 Lite
Posts: 1,429
Re: Spectra 150 Manual or Connect?

Willem,

Pickle if its not going to be used for long periods. I pickled my 150D in June of 2016, and restarted in April 2019 without any impairment to water quality or quantity. If in the meantime you do one of your short trips, just fill your fresh water tank before you leave and live off the tank water. We keep our tanks very clean, and run RO water thru the tank before drinking it, with no issues.
sailjumanji is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 20-01-2020, 15:54   #9
Senior Cruiser

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2012
Location: Hailing Minny, MN
Boat: Vancouver 27
Posts: 1,061
Images: 1
Re: Spectra 150 Manual or Connect?

I've had a cape horn for about 5 years now. We pickle it every year for the 8 months we are not on the boat. It's about a 15 minute procedure and very painless (using either the sc-1 spectra-proprietary blend or polypropylene glycol).

We get back on the boat 8 months later and do a 20 minute flush to clear out the pickling agent. Bam, ready to go again.

If you decide not to go this year, just throw some glycol in there and it will require no maintenance until you are ready to go the following year.

Unless you are off the boat regularly for short periods of time doing prolonged inshore travels while cruising, I personally don't see the attraction of complicating the setup with auto-flush. YMMV
laika is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-01-2020, 16:45   #10
Registered User
 
Jon Hacking's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Currently cruising the Philippines, just got back from PNG & Solomons
Boat: Wauquiez 45' (now 48') catamaran
Posts: 697
Images: 1
Send a message via Skype™ to Jon Hacking
Re: Spectra 150 Manual or Connect?

Willem, I agree with these last 2 posts. We've had our Spectra for 18 years. When we go home (or even on an extended shore excursion) we pickle it. Takes only a few minutes, & costs ~$10 for the stuff from Spectra (we keep a couple on board). Only problem we've had was when we left it pickled for 2.5 years during a refit, which apparently did nasty things to the seals in the Clark Pump, so we shipped it back to Spectra for refirb ($450).

I don't know the "connect" but it sounds overly complicated, & a watermaker is complicated enough already. Keep it simple, mate!

FWIW, our Watermaker page may help you with some decisions. I'd recommend getting the valve-panel, as that makes things much easier once you get it all installed. We only put watermaker water or rainwater in our port tank, as that's what we flush from.

And good luck on your cruising! (from a fellow PNWer)
__________________
-- Jon Hacking s/v Ocelot
Jon Hacking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-01-2020, 21:38   #11
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 9
Re: Spectra 150 Manual or Connect?

Thanks for all the suggestions. Sounds like automatic flush is not really needed. It also sounds like pickling is a very straightforward affair. I'm looking forward to getting the watermaker.
LaBrisa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-01-2020, 09:30   #12
Sponsoring Vendor
 
Tellie's Avatar

Community Sponsor

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Hollywood, Fl.
Boat: FP Athena 38' Poerava
Posts: 3,392
Re: Spectra 150 Manual or Connect?

I wouldn't recommend a Connect system on a Ventura150 in your case I would go for the Cape Horn Extreme330 instead. You'll spend less money on the Cape Horn Extreme330 than you will on a Ventura 150 with the Connect system. You'll get twice the production with the CHE and you can add a simple timer to the CHE for auto flushing. This is always been one of my favorite watermakers and set ups for smaller sail boats. Let me know if I can ever help.
Tellie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-01-2020, 10:18   #13
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 118
Re: Spectra 150 Manual or Connect?

We've got a Spectra Z-ion on our 200T (manual). Works fine for situations like this, up to maybe a month they say. For longer, pickle.
briblack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-01-2020, 11:52   #14
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 9
Re: Spectra 150 Manual or Connect?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellie View Post
I wouldn't recommend a Connect system on a Ventura150 in your case I would go for the Cape Horn Extreme330 instead. You'll spend less money on the Cape Horn Extreme330 than you will on a Ventura 150 with the Connect system. You'll get twice the production with the CHE and you can add a simple timer to the CHE for auto flushing. This is always been one of my favorite watermakers and set ups for smaller sail boats. Let me know if I can ever help.
Thanks Tellie. That's a good recommendation. I wasn't aware the CHE had the ability to add a simple timer for auto flushing.
LaBrisa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-01-2020, 11:56   #15
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: London
Boat: Oyster 49
Posts: 115
Re: Spectra 150 Manual or Connect?

Quote:
Originally Posted by briblack View Post
We've got a Spectra Z-ion on our 200T (manual). Works fine for situations like this, up to maybe a month they say. For longer, pickle.
I too had the Z-Ion retrofitted to replace the charcoal filter. I now do not pickle if leaving for up to 4 weeks
https://www.spectrawatermakers.com/d...l-ae080116.pdf

Pickling is dead easy and not a big deal. Follow the instructions and its done in about 1/2 hr

TudorSailor
__________________

Tudorsailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Introducing the Spectra Connect Controller to Remotely Monitor & Run Your Watermaker SpectraH2O Vendor Spotlight - Great Deals for CF Members! 5 14-02-2019 12:24
Spectra Ventura 150 issue with pressure Mirador Plumbing Systems and Fixtures 5 08-11-2012 14:08
For Sale: Spectra Ventura 150 Water Maker Jennie B Classifieds Archive 3 24-01-2012 05:33
For Sale: Spectra 'Ventura' 150 Watermaker DCGSAILING Classifieds Archive 2 03-02-2011 08:30
For Sale: Spectra Ventura Deluxe 150 Watermaker off-the-grid Classifieds Archive 9 28-11-2010 11:17

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:56.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.