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07-10-2011, 14:39
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Boat: Dix Caribbea 30'
Posts: 59
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Sink and Shower Drainage
PO showered in the boat but without a sump or drain pan water simply ran into the bilge and eventually pumped out. This created obvious sanitary issues as well as clogging the pump and float switch.
There's very little room beneath the sole but I'll figure out how to add a pan and dedicated shower pump. For shower drainage, is it okay to T into the sink drain? Sink drain has its own dedicated thru hull below the water line. I realize I'd need a loop vented well above the highest point of heel or perhaps a check valve. Seacock is kept closed when I'm not on the boat.
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07-10-2011, 15:22
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: East Tennessee
Boat: 1989 50 ft Roberts
Posts: 859
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Re: Sink and Shower Drainage
I'm planning to put all the gray water into a common sump and pump it all out above the water line. Extra holes in the hull underwater seem so.........scary.
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07-10-2011, 15:35
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Boat: Dix Caribbea 30'
Posts: 59
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Re: Sink and Shower Drainage
The hole is already there. In fact, I'm about to haul the boat to add a backing plate and replace the seacock.
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07-10-2011, 17:02
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Wherever the boat is!
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Re: Sink and Shower Drainage
Not a problem taping into the sink drain thru-hull. Just keep it as close as possible to the thru-hull. Chuck
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07-10-2011, 17:06
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,806
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Re: Sink and Shower Drainage
if you tap into the sink drain don't use a high capacity pump!
but why wouldn't you install a new outlet above the water line, can do this even with the boat in the water
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07-10-2011, 22:47
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Boat: Dix Caribbea 30'
Posts: 59
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Re: Sink and Shower Drainage
If there's not a fundamental issue with shower and sink discharges sharing a thru hull then I'd prefer to avoid adding yet another hole in the boat.
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07-10-2011, 22:55
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vancouver BC
Boat: Lagoon 380
Posts: 367
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Re: Sink and Shower Drainage
The issue will be if the thru hull does not have the capcity to handle the flow from your shower sump pump it will back up the sink drain and over flow the sink.
You don't want to know how I know this
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07-10-2011, 23:02
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Boat: Dix Caribbea 30'
Posts: 59
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Re: Sink and Shower Drainage
I see how that would be a problem. If I set the pump to cycle on relatively quickly then regardless of the pump capacity (within reason) the volume of water won't be enough to overflow the sink.
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07-10-2011, 23:21
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Sidney b.c
Boat: Ct 37
Posts: 162
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Or you could use one of those sink plugs that twist and lock no more water coming up the drain
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08-10-2011, 17:50
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Winnipeg
Boat: None at this time
Posts: 8,462
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Re: Sink and Shower Drainage
Just make sure the sea cock is open when you turn on the pump...
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09-10-2011, 09:52
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay
Boat: Fantasia 35
Posts: 1,257
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Re: Sink and Shower Drainage
Have you consider T'ing into the bilge pump discharge line. The bilge discharge should be above the waterline. To keep the bilge dry the bilge pump should have a check valve of some type. This valve will keep the shower water from flowing into the bilge.
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09-10-2011, 09:59
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: A real life Zombie from FL
Boat: Gulfstar 53 - Osiris
Posts: 5,416
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Re: Sink and Shower Drainage
The sink drain line is probably the closest and easiest to tap into. Just try to "Tee" into it as low as possible from the sink. I seriously doubt that the volume of water from a shower will overwhelm the sink drain and tapping into it low gives you a vertical "head" to alleviate shower water from backing up into the sink.
- - And the other way around - ensure you have a check valve or something in the shower drain package to prevent sink drain water from backing into the shower.
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09-10-2011, 10:11
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
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Re: Sink and Shower Drainage
my ericson has shower into bilge--i found if i used a lil vinegar or even bilge soap there was no smell..i diluted the soap and flushed with fresh water once after each shower. kept bilges clean and fresh.
worked great. i have a sump in this formosa and i flush with vinegar mebbe about once per month for cleanliness.
is amazing what a lil follow up to showering does in the old system of no sump......
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09-10-2011, 10:34
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 25,754
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Re: Sink and Shower Drainage
On my 30 footer The shower was just routed to the bilge. I had a trap to pickup any debris and it worked quite well. In fact the detergent helped keep the bilge clean! No pump, no issues.
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09-10-2011, 19:24
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: A real life Zombie from FL
Boat: Gulfstar 53 - Osiris
Posts: 5,416
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Re: Sink and Shower Drainage
If somebody has long hair and likes to keep it "glorious" then invariably there will be a lot of hair working its way down the shower drain. Unless there is a shower box or trap for such stuff, you may be jeopardizing your main bilge pumps. Not a good idea.
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