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Old 16-09-2020, 18:18   #61
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Re: simplified plumbing, Composting and "direct deposit"

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Well, for me, sailing on Lake Michigan, there is no dumping overboard.
What I meant was to have the urinal mounted on the bulkhead, keeping the toilet where it is. The urinal, since it is higher than the tank, maybe can be plumbed directly to the tank (not sure that works on a heel though...maybe needs a shut off valve in the hose). Or it just drains into the toilet bowl, which has to be pumped dry after use.

Just trying to make it easier for the Wednesday night sailing boys to hit the target

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Sounds ideal for your setup!
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Old 16-09-2020, 18:42   #62
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Re: simplified plumbing, Composting and "direct deposit"

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Well, for me, sailing on Lake Michigan, there is no dumping overboard.

What I meant was to have the urinal mounted on the bulkhead, keeping the toilet where it is. The urinal, since it is higher than the tank, maybe can be plumbed directly to the tank (not sure that works on a heel though...maybe needs a shut off valve in the hose). Or it just drains into the toilet bowl, which has to be pumped dry after use.



Just trying to make it easier for the Wednesday night sailing boys to hit the target



Greg


Tell the Wednesday night sailing boys to have a seat while taking care of business. Itís been the rule on our boats for decades.
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Old 16-09-2020, 19:05   #63
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Re: simplified plumbing, Composting and "direct deposit"

My direct deposit comments were meant for passage making, not coastal sailing... I thought I made that pretty clear. But there are always the screamers horrified at dropping a turd overboard even a thousand miles from land... as if all creatures in the sea don't **** in the sea also.. unless they happen to also spend time on land.



Most sailors rarely are out of sight of land for very long if at all, so it obviously doesn't apply to them. On passage it makes little sense to use even a composting head, but for normal inshore sailing the composting head makes the most sense to me, as it eliminates the complexity of the systems, the holding tanks, the smelly plumbing... and it always seems to be smelly.


The inescapable reality is that offshore at many if not most men are going to piss over the side when nobody's looking. No sense in pretending otherwise. This is said to be the number one cause of MOB incidents, and at sea recovery is problematic at best. Perhaps a pushpit designed specifically with this in mind would make sense, particularly for the solo sailor.
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