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Old 17-07-2015, 11:04   #1
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Isotherm rebuild vs Engle drop in

our 10 yr old Isotherm freezer gave out - developed a freon leak, then the compressor packed up. I'm considering two options. First is a Frigoboat Capri 50 compressor and evaporator plate that would be installed in the existing freezer box. I've been quoted $1,800 installed. The other option would be to remove the existing freezer (a job in itself), and replace it with an Engle drop in, which is supposed to be very efficient. The Engle is about half the volumn of the Isotherm, so we'd lose a lot of capacity. The Engle is only $995 for the unit, with free shipping, but would require removal the the existing freezer and installation. Any experience with Frigoboat freezers?? Are they reliable ??
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We love or Engel after 6+ years of nearly full time use. The smaller size is a plus in my mind since it takes so much less power. The minus is you can have either a fridge or freezer, but not both, unless you get two.
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We love or Engel after 6+ years of nearly full time use. The smaller size is a plus in my mind since it takes so much less power. The minus is you can have either a fridge or freezer, but not both, unless you get two.
They do a combo fridge/freezer model now that I own - it works like a champ.

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I have the freezer section set to around -16/-20c and the it holds it easily, while the fridge section works perfectly.

Such an easy solution.

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We love or Engel after 6+ years of nearly full time use. The smaller size is a plus in my mind since it takes so much less power. The minus is you can have either a fridge or freezer, but not both, unless you get two.

Where do you keep it? I'm moving aboard my 34 full time! Ice will no longer cut it.


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Old 17-07-2015, 21:41   #6
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Re: Isotherm rebuild vs Engle drop in

We considered removing our built in fridge when we found out that we could put two drop in Engel MT-45's next to each other in the space we have. They have versions that have attached or remote compressors to fit your space.

Instead we kept of regular fridge and added a portable mt-45 unit with an insulated travel cover. The energy usage they list in the brochures is spot on... we have been able to drop down the unit to about 2.75 (on a 1 to 5 scale) and still keep things frozen hard - but not ice cream. In florida we can keep ice cream frozen at position #4.
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Re: Isotherm rebuild vs Engle drop in

That Engel is nice for its size love the power specs but its about the size of our freezer alone
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Re: Isotherm rebuild vs Engle drop in

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First is a Frigoboat Capri 50 compressor and evaporator plate that would be installed in the existing freezer box. I've been quoted $1,800 installed.

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Any experience with Frigoboat freezers?? Are they reliable ??
Since nobody else is speaking up, I will.

I don't know what you mean by 'Frigoboat freezer' - unless it's a box which will hold stuff frozen while you use the rest of the heat removal for refrigeration.

That said, it was only due to configuration issues that I didn't go back with the same setup after my Frigoboat packed it in (long story covered in several other threads on CF).

I don't know what's involved with your issue, but I can tell you that my SeaFrost unit, which has now, a bit more than a year in, with considerably less time of use due to circumstance, already had its fir$t March Pump failure not long after the warranty ran out - a significant portion of a boat buck just by itself - and cost double what you've been quoted.

You haven't said what a tear-out and reconfiguration would cost. But the Engels have a huge reputation, and, if it HAS to be replaced, it should be a plug-and-play. This assumes, of course, that you do the Engel route.

Had my Frigoboat, even if it required a haulout to replace the keel cooler, been a plug-and-play, I'd have gone back with it. It would consume about half the amp hours that my new system does, which is key in our lives (to avoid running the Honda any more than absolutely necessary). In addition, regardless of cost in dead dinosaurs/sun rays, our FB system could pull at least 15°F colder than the SeaFrost. Your new system, if that's how you go, likely will also be a (relative) P&P for your dead one.

FWIW, FrigoboatInfo is a member of the CF, and will give you great support should you ever need it, long past the warranty period...
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Re: Isotherm rebuild vs Engle drop in

Have you costed out repairing the Isotherm?

A new compressor and mending the leak should not be too expensive
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I am quite pleased with my small Engle fridge OR freezer.
My Buddy Dave, put 2 in his 44. One as fridge and one as freezer. loved the system in a year long cruise.
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I have read some good reviews on Edgestar as being comparable to Engel at a lower price.

I have no first hand knowledge.

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Where do you keep it? I'm moving aboard my 34 full time! Ice will no longer cut it.
We have the bulkhead mounted table. We removed the leaf and always keep the table down. We keep the Engel under it. We tie it there when venturing offshore.
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We have the bulkhead mounted table. We removed the leaf and always keep the table down. We keep the Engel under it. We tie it there when venturing offshore.

Cool,,thanks. I've got same configuration, love it. I just have to see how I'm going to use the space living aboard.

Dude, you're killing it in the galley. Looks like a constant stream of goodies. Do you bake in the little force 10 propane? I need to get a stone or something for temp regulation.


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Re: Isotherm rebuild vs Engle drop in

We also have an Isotherm front entry fridge that's working fine. The current freezer is large - much larger than the Engel drop in.
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Re: Isotherm rebuild vs Engle drop in

My new Engel is very noisy. Much more so than any of the older ones. It vibrates the whole boat, even sitting on a foam mat. Not impressed!

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