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Old 03-03-2020, 19:47   #1
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Australian East Coast pumpout facilities.

Hi all,

I am trying to find out what size deck fitting I need for the East Coast of Oz to use the public pump-out facilities for my black water holding tank.

I tried phoning one of the councils but all they could tell me was that they use ďthe standard sizeĒ.

Great.

Does anyone here know?

Edit. Title should read EAST coast. Curse you, auto-correct.
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Re: Australian East Coast pumpout facilities.

What pump out facilities would they be?
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What pump out facilities would they be?

NSW:
https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/about/env...acilities.html

QLD:
https://www.msq.qld.gov.au/Marine-po...poutfacilities

Pumpout fitting:
https://www.theboatwarehouse.com.au/...polypropylene/


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Re: Australian East Coast pumpout facilities.

Yes, thatís the 40 mm version, but thereís also a smaller (32 mm ?) version on lots of the boats around me.
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Re: Australian East Coast pumpout facilities.

GILow, do not plan on finding equivalent pumpouts where you thought to. We have heard nothing but troubles about this, and they don't keep adapters. You'd be better off to find out which ones are "standard" in Oz, and carry your own adapters. I'd consider painting them a hideous color, so easy to identify and retrieve.

Unpopular opinion, I know, but possibly better to plan on at sea discharge and flushing of holding tank.

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Re: Australian East Coast pumpout facilities.

At $11.21 each I'd just buy both sizes.

Whilst you're on a poly buying spree I'd consider laying in enough to build a couple of these.

From the RHS it a hex nipple to screw into the deck fitting, a reducer, and LHS half a barrel nipple.

If you buy two hex nipples and two reducers you can make two of them when you cut the barrel nipple in half. One for water and one for fuel.

I use the fuel one all the time as it keeps the threads inside the deck fitting from getting damaged by the metal nozzle on the fuel hose and prevents spillage if the vent cannot handle sufficient air flow and it bubbles back up the hose. Also some of the places which mainly handle fishing boats have nozzles which won't fit into yacht deck fittings.
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Re: Australian East Coast pumpout facilities.

Yep, Iím realising Iíll have to able to handle both sizes.

Poly time for me.
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Re: Australian East Coast pumpout facilities.

Coastal Waters (3 nautical mile limit) - Jurisdiction over the water column and the subjacent seabed is vested in the adjacent State or Territory as if the area formed part of that State or Territory. This, and other arrangements for the management of offshore resources such as fisheries and petroleum, are defined by the Offshore Constitutional Settlement (OCS). The principal legislation implementing the OCS (Coastal Water (State Powers) Act 1980, Coastal Waters (State Title) Act 1980, Coastal Waters (Northern Territory Powers) Act 1980 and the Coastal Waters (Northern Territory Title) Act 1980) entered into force in January 1982 and February 1983.

From - https://www.ga.gov.au/scientific-top...ry-definitions

So maybe go with Jim's advice on the NSW coast. On a trip, you may be fine to dump whenever you are 3 miles offshore, which is pretty often. Dilution is the solution to pollution so do it when sailing or motoring along.

When you get to Queensland things are little easier to understand

https://www.msq.qld.gov.au/Marine-pollution/Sewage.aspx

You are allowed to discharge in many areas but not close to shore or people.
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What pump out facilities would they be?
We cruised the coast from Tasmania to Thursday Island and I don't remember seeing any pump out stations.
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Re: Australian East Coast pumpout facilities.

I think you will find that every Marina in NSW has a pump out. I believe the RMS compels it. Having said that and having been sailing on the Oz coast for 40 years, nobody uses these facilities. A friend owned a Marina, which he extended and was forced to implement a pump out. In the ten years he owned the Marina not one person used the pump out.
There are always exceptions to a rule, but suggest you do what the rest of us do. Use Marina facilities when along side or dump offshore when tank full
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I think you will find that every Marina in NSW has a pump out. I believe the RMS compels it. Having said that and having been sailing on the Oz coast for 40 years, nobody uses these facilities. A friend owned a Marina, which he extended and was forced to implement a pump out. In the ten years he owned the Marina not one person used the pump out.
There are always exceptions to a rule, but suggest you do what the rest of us do. Use Marina facilities when along side or dump offshore when tank full
Well said...

And I may have a clue as to why no one uses such facilities: happened to be in the marina at Yamba last year for a surprise cutless bearing replacement, and looked at their posted price schedule. Was rather amazed to see that they charged non-residents 60 (yes sixty) dollars for a pumpout. I doubt if many folks would be using that facility!

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Re: Australian East Coast pumpout facilities.

pump out at private marinas will often charge, but most public wharfs have pump out facilities and such are free

that having been said, do what the rest of us do...use the holding tank during the day in a crowded anchorage or if swimming, and open the dump (pardon the pun) valve at night

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but most public wharfs have pump out facilities and such are free
That's true, Chris... and just a few miles up the Clarence at Maclean the public pontoon does have a free pumpout... but it is locked up tight, and reports from the locals say that it isn't functional. At least that was true the last few times we've been there. I dunno if that is typical.

Oh... to access that in a yacht, you must pass under the Harwood bridge, and that requires 24 hour notice for raising. A lot of effort for a pumpout!

I hope other places do a better job of this!

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Well said...

And I may have a clue as to why no one uses such facilities: happened to be in the marina at Yamba last year for a surprise cutless bearing replacement, and looked at their posted price schedule. Was rather amazed to see that they charged non-residents 60 (yes sixty) dollars for a pumpout. I doubt if many folks would be using that facility!

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When we first got our current vessel the holding tank was full and wouldn't fully pump out so I thought we were going use a pump out facility.

RQYS have one, non members was $110 4 years ago.

Needless to say that forced me to figure out a workaround.
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When we first got our current vessel the holding tank was full and wouldn't fully pump out so I thought we were going use a pump out facility.

RQYS have one, non members was $110 4 years ago.

Needless to say that forced me to figure out a workaround.
HAH! Leave it to the royals to outdo a common money gouger...

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