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26-09-2011, 12:27
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Re: Alternative Propane Storage
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Originally Posted by unbusted67
... Can you run a propane tank on its side?
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ONLY if it's a Horizontal Cylinder (tank).
NOT if it's a standard Vertical tank.
➥ Horizontal Propane Cylinders
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26-09-2011, 13:31
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Re: Alternative Propane Storage
Watch out putting composite tanks in the direct sun. My local propane shop has a bunch in the junk pile that have cracked carriers from the sunlight. That's the colored outer part of the tank, not even in the tropics...
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26-09-2011, 13:36
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Re: Alternative Propane Storage
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Originally Posted by unbusted67
Hey here's a question: I have isolated a space that I could potentially fit a tank but I would have to lay a 6lb tank down on its side. Can you run a propane tank on its side?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sarafina
Yep ; -)
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No. A conventional vertical propane tank may not be operated in an orientation that submerges the valve in liquid propane.
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26-09-2011, 13:41
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Re: Alternative Propane Storage
Quote:
Originally Posted by unbusted67
Hey here's a question: I have isolated a space that I could potentially fit a tank but I would have to lay a 6lb tank down on its side. Can you run a propane tank on its side?
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Only ones built to be horizontal. The horizontal ones do not have a opd so many fill stations that don't know the rules will not fill a horizontal tank. A friend that had horizontal tanks had to carry around the regulation to show attendants who would not fill his tank. The regular tanks should only be used in a vertical position.
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26-09-2011, 13:53
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Re: Alternative Propane Storage
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Originally Posted by unbusted67
... What about experimenting with the smaller green bottles?....
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That's what I use. I rarely cruise for more than 2 months a year and on a small boat with limited space to put a large tank outside.
I usually buy the 1 lb cylinders for under $3 each and they last at least a week, so for a one-month cruise I'm only looking at $10 or so for all my propane needs. Compared to building any system from scratch, it's hard to beat the economics of that.
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26-09-2011, 14:39
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Re: Alternative Propane Storage
Yep, and the little green meanies have another use: backup!
I learned the hard way, on the second morning of a cruise with my wife when we ran out of propane and we couldn't even make coffee. And, 100 miles from home and a Sunday to boot!
Thank heavens a buddy boat had a couple of spare green propane tanks, and I had an adapter for them.
Now, I carry two of the little ones in a special bracket mount next to my large (horizontal) propane tank. The adapter lives in the chart table where I can find it :-)
Bill
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26-09-2011, 15:58
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Re: Alternative Propane Storage
Try n stay away from the green beanies. While I agree that they are good for emergency use, they are completely non-recyclable, at least up here in Canada. About all you can do with them is punch a hole in them and toss them in a metal scrap bin AFTER telling the owner of the bin.
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26-09-2011, 16:18
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Re: Alternative Propane Storage
Quote:
Originally Posted by unbusted67
Hey here's a question: I have isolated a space that I could potentially fit a tank but I would have to lay a 6lb tank down on its side. Can you run a propane tank on its side?
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They sell horizontal tanks for that purpose.
as far as propane tanks on the stern rail etc. I had no problem with an aluminum one back there for the BBQ and it was also my spare for the main stove. If worried about the regulator exposure etc you could get a nice sunbrella cover. I wouldnt pay $600 for a plastic box either!
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26-09-2011, 16:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by unbusted67
What about getting a fiberglass tank and mounting it outside in the cockpit over the cockpit drains? Running a short hose to the regulator and solenoid which could be mounted just inside the cockpit locker, and then on to the stove. Or does the tank have to be enclosed?
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The drain from the propane tank enclosure MUST drain down ABOVE the water.
If your cockpit drains connect via thru hull then this will not be safe, as the water makes a waterseal. Not good. I think abyc claims 3 inched minimum height above the drain. Can not recall.
Best of luck.
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27-09-2011, 05:35
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Re: Alternative Propane Storage
i can email you the a.b.y.c. standards for propane regulations if you send me your email.
randall
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27-09-2011, 05:44
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Re: Alternative Propane Storage
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Originally Posted by veda
i can email you the a.b.y.c. standards for propane regulations if you send me your email.
randall
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They're available online (for now):
Here ➥ http://www.abyc.com/committees/A-01.pdf
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28-09-2011, 20:24
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Re: Alternative Propane Storage
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Originally Posted by Vasco
Only ones built to be horizontal. The horizontal ones do not have a opd so many fill stations that don't know the rules will not fill a horizontal tank. A friend that had horizontal tanks had to carry around the regulation to show attendants who would not fill his tank. The regular tanks should only be used in a vertical position.
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I use horizontal aluminium tanks. Fork lift truck style. They sure seem to have an OPD inside. They are filled using a separate, larger, port. The outlet has a check valve. They are filled in the vertical position but must be used horizontal. No problem filling anywhere in the world, yet. I do carry an adaptor hose for the fill port which can also used to fill from the local tanks when the local adaptor is fitted.
The vapors drain into the cockpit and down the nearby huge above-the-waterline cockpit drains on the transom. Maybe not entirely legal.
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28-09-2011, 22:35
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Re: Alternative Propane Storage
Cruisers & Sailing Forums - Strait Shooter's Album: Anian - Picture[IMG]
I have 2 aluminum, horizontal tanks mounted on my pilothouse. I use approximately 5 gallons a month for heating and cooking. The tanks are light weight and not a problem getting filled.
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