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Old 06-06-2021, 19:18   #1
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Adler Barbour BD 2.5 Will Not Cool

I have an old AB Cold Machine with a BD 2.5 compressor that has performed well during the 22 years I have owned the boat. When the unit is turned on, the fan runs, gurgling sounds come from the evaporator and the amp gauge shows a draw of 5 amps. It is difficult to confirm that the compressor is running but the amperage draw would indicate that it is. The unit will run continuously, the compressor gets warm but not hot and there is no cooling in the evaporator.
I disconnected the fan to check for excessive fan current draw causing the problem. I jumped the thermostat terminals on the electronic module to eliminate that cause. I connected a fully charged, fused independent battery with heavy wire directly to the control module to eliminate the boat system as the problem. Are there any other trouble shooting steps to take before I get the unit leak checked/serviced with R12 freon?
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Old 07-06-2021, 01:29   #2
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Compressor running without stopping, drawing 5 normal amps, your ammeter reading is incorrect. Compressor runs but only gets warm indicates also low on refrigerant.
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Old 07-06-2021, 01:37   #3
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Compressor running without stopping, drawing 5 normal amps, your ammeter reading is incorrect. Compressor runs but only gets warm indicates also low on refrigerant.
Richard, I am interested in just what 5 normal amps are, are they different from 5 abnormal amps or are they something I have not heard of before?
This enquiring mind wants to know as I am sure others do as well.
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Low on gass a sure bet ,gas charge should be checked about every two years ,.⛵️⚓️
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Richard, I am interested in just what 5 normal amps are, are they different from 5 abnormal amps or are they something I have not heard of before?
This enquiring mind wants to know as I am sure others do as well.
And quoting 'amps' without relating to voltage is vague at best, but its reasonable to assume that it refers to a 12VDC supply.
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Richard, I am interested in just what 5 normal amps are, are they different from 5 abnormal amps or are they something I have not heard of before?
This enquiring mind wants to know as I am sure others do as well.
Bob and Louie need to stop the childishness Innuendos read the OP.
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Have you cleaned the condenser? Is the line coming back from the box to the compressor "cold".

BTW - are you guys really going to start another personal post war aganist each other? We don't you join a chatroom.
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Old 07-06-2021, 06:32   #8
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Twenty-two years. You got a lot of good use out of that system. Time to pay about $1,500 for a new, more efficient Cold Machine rather than dumping good money into patching up the old one.


Trying to prolong the life of an ancient piece of electronic machinery is a sure way to vanish a lot of cash in a losing battle.
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Have you cleaned the conds the line coming back from the box to the compressor "cold".
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sailorboy you may be on the right track if he reports back high pressure reading higher than normal. Except compressor is not reported hot.
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sailorboy you may be on the right track if he reports back high pressure reading higher than normal. Except compressor is not reported hot.
I feel compressor being "hot" is a pretty big judgement item that may be meaningful or meaningless unless you have idea what was was normally like in past
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probably needs a recharge in the refrigerant. There are compatible refrigerants available. easy DIY
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Re: Adler Barbour BD 2.5 Will Not Cool

I appreciate all of the feedback. I rechecked the voltage and amp readings with the icebox on and off. I also checked with the fan disconnected.

Steady state with ice box off 12.68. 00.2

Steady state with the icebox on. 12.49. 04.5

Steady state with the fan disconnected. 12.44. 04.4

The compressor does not get “hot” after running with the fan on...closer to luke warm.

The condenser is physically clean. Was the reference to cleaning it focused on the inside of the condenser tubes?

Thanks again to all for your analysis and comments.
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The compressor does not get “hot” after running with the fan on...closer to luke warm.

The condenser is physically clean. Was the reference to cleaning it focused on the inside of the condenser tubes?

Thanks again to all for your analysis and comments.
No it was to be sure it was getting air across it.

So is the the refrigerant return tube to the compressor from the box cold?
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Voltages and amperage are not your problem as compressor started up and is running.
The BD2.5 compressor with freon R12 will draw at least 5 amps ten minutes after start up on a 70 degree day. It will remain at 5 amps till frost is present on evaporator after there should be a slight amperage reduction.

Five amps is normal, three amps all most no cooling. At 4.4 is not good and a ammeter error of one amp or more less, there will be no cooling. I am sorry to say your unit needs more R12 refrigerant the amount 3 to 5 ounces by weight. If you are not in a very warm climate one of the blended substitutes can be used temporally. But remember there will still be a leak to repair. At 22 years of age there is a good chance thin aluminum plate evaporator is failing with interior corrosion pin holes and it is not repairable.
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The refrigerant return line is not cold. Both lines are ambient temperature.
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