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03-06-2022, 15:05
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Australia
Boat: Hinckley 49, Evening Star, originally owned by Lawrence Rockefeller
Posts: 282
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When is a MAX prop too old
Hi I have a 3 bladed Max prop in use on my Hinckley 49, that has been in use over 20 years.
I cannot fault it’s performance, forward, feathered, and reverse all work exactly as it should.
It’s get an annual grease clean and paint, everything is good except play in the blades.
If I hold the blade at the end I can get at least two mm of wobble.
I assume this is wear.
My questions are, how much wear it allowed, how do I know if the prop will fail, if it fails what happens?
I hate replacing items that are still ok to use.
Max prop do have a return and refurbishment option, not sure if this is for me though
Maybe it will go another20 years? Or maybe it will break off tomorrow, I don’t know.
Any max props out there similar?
Mark hunter
Www.Vacuwash.com.au
0415 333 244
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03-06-2022, 15:38
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S/V rubber ducky
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: heading "south"
Boat: Hunter 410
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Re: When is a MAX prop too old
maybe ask MaxProp???
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03-06-2022, 15:42
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Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, cruising in Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
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Re: When is a MAX prop too old
I'd ask the Max prop folks, since they offer the re-furbish option. It IS possible to build up worn parts, but they might also replace with the re-furbishing option, so I'd enquire about that if the 2mm play is "too much" according to them. If you continue to run it with a lot of play, it will just batter things more.
Ann
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03-06-2022, 15:43
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 760
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Re: When is a MAX prop too old
Mine is 26 years old, a veteran of two circumnavigations, and over 150,000 ocean miles. I haven’t seen anything that says repair or replace to me.
Keep them properly zinced, and don’t shift abruptly from forward to reverse and there really isn’t any wear that happens.
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03-06-2022, 15:48
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Boston
Boat: Farr 50 Pilothouse
Posts: 1,348
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Re: When is a MAX prop too old
Are you talking about 2mm at the tips of the blades? I'm not sure that's out of line. I agree that you should ask max prop about it. I think if you send it in and they decide the play is too much, they can shim the base of the blades where the hub clamshells around them.
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03-06-2022, 16:39
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Virgin Islands
Boat: PDQ 36, 36'5", previously Leopard 45 cat and Hunter 33 mono
Posts: 1,345
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Re: When is a MAX prop too old
Having used the rebuild service, I can tell you that they do a good job. Nothing about Max Prop's are cheap and if you have two of them, as I did, on my cat, that counts double. They are actually supposed to be sent in for refurbishment, periodically, because they DO wear, like anything mechanical. in my opinion, wear comes when shifting in and out of gear, and possibly whilst motoring, rather than sailing. And, they must be greased carefully....not a low maintenance item. Talk to their US distributors, PYI, who are very helpful, and know their product on an intimate basis.
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03-06-2022, 16:59
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Australia
Boat: Hinckley 49, Evening Star, originally owned by Lawrence Rockefeller
Posts: 282
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Re: When is a MAX prop too old
I have asked the exact question to max prop, the crowd response is always more fun and varied
I’ll post their response when I get it
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03-06-2022, 17:31
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 760
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Re: When is a MAX prop too old
Quote:
Originally Posted by Markhunter1097
I have asked the exact question to max prop, the crowd response is always more fun and varied
I’ll post their response when I get it
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I don't really see any significant variation in the answers. There is no age or mileage that automatically indicates a rebuild is needed. If the prop has been abused, it might have enough wear that it does need a rebuild.
How much is too much wear? Call MaxProp. It's the only answer that counts.
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03-06-2022, 19:14
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Canada
Boat: C&C
Posts: 327
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Re: When is a MAX prop too old
Had my 2 blade for 34 years now, never babied it and it runs perfect! Every year I take it apart and regrets the entire unit, no signs of wear. Absolutely love it!!! Best boat investment I ever made!!!
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03-06-2022, 21:15
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Langley, WA
Boat: Nordic 44
Posts: 2,501
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Re: When is a MAX prop too old
My three blade Maxprop in now 36 years old. Over 10,000 engine hours on two engines and 135,000 total sea miles. I had Maxprop service it once over 24 years ago and once by an independent machinist in New Zealand about 14 years ago.
Do you have the modification to grease the prop without taking it apart? If not have them do that for you when you send it in for service.
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03-06-2022, 21:39
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Santa Cruz
Boat: SAnta Cruz 27
Posts: 6,711
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Re: When is a MAX prop too old
I noticed my 3 blade max prop has some vibration when motorsailing, so had it refurbished after 4000 hours. It cost half of a new prop, but came back like new.
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03-06-2022, 21:57
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registered user
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: back in West Australia
Boat: plastic production boat, suitable for deep blue water ;)
Posts: 1,090
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Re: When is a MAX prop too old
Like other ones above have said, check with max prop.
Mine was 24-25 years old, sailed ? 40 to 60k NM , had similar play as yours: a few mm at the end of the 3 blades, and the next time I hauled out, small crack in the boss/housing, not repairable.
Now have a new 4 blade one, and I am on diet of water and rice for 2 years to pay for that
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04-06-2022, 05:07
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 4
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Re: When is a MAX prop too old
I suggest that you telephone PYI and ask to speak with Jerome. He is the exceptionally helpful and experienced person who evaluates returned Max Props and reconditions them, if you decide to go that route.
A couple of years ago, a boatyard owner suggested sending my nearly 20-year-old Max Prop to PYI for evaluation and reconditioning. I had a number of telephone discussions with Jerome and eventually decided to have him recondition the prop.
The price is substantial, but considerably less than the price of a new Max Prop. Jerome gave me a clear explanation of what he does in the reconditioning process and the possible outcomes. The outcome after reconditioning depends on how careful and consistent the helmsman is about letting the prop's revolutions come down in neutral before shifting from forward to reverse and vice versa.
I hope this is helpful.
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04-06-2022, 07:00
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Hull Diver
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Under a boat, in a marina, in the San Francisco Bay
Posts: 5,428
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Re: When is a MAX prop too old
Just a heads-up: The Max Prop Classic model has been discontinued for some time now. I don't know if this is the case or not, but I wonder if parts availability has been affected (if needed during a refurb.)
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04-06-2022, 07:29
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Cruising Pacific Mexico
Boat: Hunter Legend 40.5
Posts: 150
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Re: When is a MAX prop too old
I had the same thing and of course max prop told me to send it in. Haven't yet. Previous owner didn't grease it
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