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unbusted67 · 10-12-2009, 13:01

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Originally Posted by Solitude

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The wording isn't great I don't get what I'm doing wrong with the forward spring line.

It runs from the dock forward to the bow!

Am I missunderstanding this? or just stupid

You can use a spring line to spring the stern out by putting the boat in forward. Still I don't know if I got that one right though. Is that what other people put?

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Originally Posted by Randy

My favorite answer to treating the seasick crew member was: having the other crew heave too!

Moral support.

Ram · 10-12-2009, 13:02

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Originally Posted by jackdale

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But what is a "snuffing box"?

Come on Jack everyone knows thats the box you stick your nose in and snort some teabackie, before you go thru a rough inlet

**David M** · 10-12-2009, 13:05

Using a spring to get off a dock is usually a recipe for putting vinyl skid marks, or worse, permanent gelcoat scratches up and down your hull.

I find that sometimes teachers become fixated on there only being one proper way of doing something. They kind of have to do this in order to be consistent with students who may not know when you can and cannot get away with an alternative method for doing something. This train of mind is reflected in a few of the test questions....that there is only one correct way of doing something in all situations.

iiii · 10-12-2009, 13:31

33 - some strange questions. Hope I would have done better if I had attended the class.

jackdale · 10-12-2009, 13:37

I do spring off - but I have fenders moved to prevent damage. Sometimes it is just as easy to harden a breast line.

Ram · 10-12-2009, 13:41

on a cat its almost never needed, one engine in forward the other in reverse with a fender between the dock and hull- even in strong wind can get off most times

Bash · 10-12-2009, 13:59

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Originally Posted by jackdale

I do spring off - but I have fenders moved to prevent damage. Sometimes it is just as easy to harden a breast line.

I did it once when the wind had me jammed against the dock, but despite four fenders between me and the dock I still ended up with skid marks on the gelcoat.

When I used to crew (divemaster) on dive boats we'd often use an aft spring to hold us to the dock while discharging passengers, keeping an engine in forward with the wheel hard over to keep the stern in place. But that was with an aluminum hull where another dock mark wasn't going to be noticed.

Funny how easy it is to power against a spring line when it's somebody else's boat.

Ram · 10-12-2009, 14:04

The troble with most fenders are there too small, the people buy smaller than what they need because of storage issues, I have 3 -28" ball tybe and the 12 inn tube type type

jackdale · 10-12-2009, 14:07

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Originally Posted by Bash

ve boats we'd often use an aft spring to hold us to the dock while discharging passengers, keeping an engine in forward with the wheel hard over to keep the stern in place. But that was with an aluminum hull where another dock mark wasn't going to be noticed.

Getting a little off topic. But ...

We use a similar technique for docking with one line. If it is in the right spot the boat will sit parallel to the dock with the wheel centered. The line is tied to the dock opposite the transom. By turning the wheel out the bow will move out, turning the wheel in will bring the stern out.

This system works great for a couple. It can also be used to single-hand. Dock the boat, get the single line attached and put the engine in forward. The boat sucks into the dock. It does not work well in a strong cross wind blowing the boat off.

Bash · 10-12-2009, 14:08

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Originally Posted by Ram

The troble with most fenders are there too small, the people buy smaller than what they need because of storage issues, I have 3 -28" ball tybe and the 12 inn tube type type

...the trouble with my fenders is that anytime I come in for a landing they magically pop up onto the top of the dock, dragging along out of the way while the gelcoat contacts the dock directly. (And that's with my 12" tube type.)

jackdale · 10-12-2009, 14:15

I am not sure I want to discuss docking with two guys named Ram and Bash.

Solitude · 10-12-2009, 14:29

Ha !

Quick Jack. That was quick..

**David M** · 10-12-2009, 14:32

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Originally Posted by jackdale

I am not sure I want to discuss docking with two guys named Ram and Bash.

That has to be one of the best responses I have ever heard in here!

**Jim Cate** · 10-12-2009, 14:37

My score:38
My feelings about the test: Not a very good measure of general sailing/cruising knowledge. For instance, the question about electrical use in a cruising boat... sure depends on the boat, the system and the future plans for electrical use. And, for a cruising boat, what difference does the alleged most common dock outlet configuration make? And, incidentally, in most of the world the line voltage is 220/240 VAC, and the outlets are much lower ratings than 30 Amps!

The questions about lights and shapes seem like a good reminder that we should really know these things cold. We lost a friend near New Zealand when the helmsperson went between a tug and its tow. The keel caught on the submerged towline, the barge continued on its way, rolled the yacht and sank it, and our pal, who was asleep below, didn't get out. Tug and tow were properly lit... so sad.

Cheers,