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17-01-2021, 20:22
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Port Credit, Ontario or Bahamas
Boat: Benford 38 Fantail Cruiser
Posts: 4,592
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Re: Can I downgrade to OUPV?
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Originally Posted by CSY Man
Been doing it for 4 years, nice little side gig and it has tax benefits.
Been fairly easy so far, and low risk.
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Does your underwriter know ?
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17-01-2021, 20:31
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#32
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Now on the Dark Side: Stink Potter.
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Ft. Lauderdale
Boat: 2001 Albin 28TE.
Posts: 3,815
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Re: Can I downgrade to OUPV?
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Originally Posted by boatpoker
Does your underwriter know ?
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Strange question, but if seriously meant: Of course, everything done in accordance with all applicable rules and regulations as well as common sense.
Link to my web page: OdinCharters| WireFrame Home
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17-01-2021, 20:37
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#33
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Port Credit, Ontario or Bahamas
Boat: Benford 38 Fantail Cruiser
Posts: 4,592
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Re: Can I downgrade to OUPV?
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSY Man
Strange question, but if seriously meant: Of course, everything done in accordance with all applicable rules and regulations as well as common sense.
Link to my web page: OdinCharters| WireFrame Home
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Not a strange question at all. I know several "captains" running illegal charters without proper insurance but thanks for the answer.
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it's not that I'm set in my ways but it's taken me 69 years to get it right and I'm not changin' now !
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17-01-2021, 20:48
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#34
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2017
Boat: FP Helia 44
Posts: 50
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Re: Can I downgrade to OUPV?
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Originally Posted by boatpoker
Does your underwriter know ?
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yes of course...I have been insured for bareboat and crewed charter for the last 3 years... mucho dinero$$
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17-01-2021, 21:55
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#35
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: New Jersey, USA
Boat: Jeanneau SO409
Posts: 463
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Re: Can I downgrade to OUPV?
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Originally Posted by CSY Man
Been doing it for 4 years, nice little side gig and it has tax benefits.
Been fairly easy so far, and low risk.
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I couldn't agree more! But, like I said... if anything ever happens, please be safe and be protected. Everyone is your friend and a friendly client until something happens... then they all turn against you... sad, but true
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22-01-2021, 08:29
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#36
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 71
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Re: Can I downgrade to OUPV?
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Originally Posted by Heliades
There seems to be a lot of discrepancy coming out of Fountaine Pajot boats. I posted on our FB group this issue.
My official USCG COD after the boat came out of the factory is 53GRT 42 Net.
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There is also a lot of discrepancy in the translation from French to English...the numbers get wacked on a regular basis. Try measuring the catamaran yourself, each hull separately, then the central cabin. That’s going to come out way less than 50gt. Try working backward from 50. Who ever did the measurements forgot about the 12 foot gap between the hulls.
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22-01-2021, 08:42
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#37
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Port Credit, Ontario or Bahamas
Boat: Benford 38 Fantail Cruiser
Posts: 4,592
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Re: Can I downgrade to OUPV?
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Originally Posted by lo2jones
There is also a lot of discrepancy in the translation from French to English...the numbers get wacked on a regular basis. Try measuring the catamaran yourself, each hull separately, then the central cabin. That’s going to come out way less than 50gt. Try working backward from 50. Who ever did the measurements forgot about the 12 foot gap between the hulls.
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Some familiarity with Simpsons rules is required to measure the complex shape of a hull.
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it's not that I'm set in my ways but it's taken me 69 years to get it right and I'm not changin' now !
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22-01-2021, 09:36
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#38
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: W Carib
Boat: Wildcat 35, Hobie 33
Posts: 12,467
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Re: Can I downgrade to OUPV?
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Originally Posted by Heliades
... "go work the oil patch as AB".
LOL good comments. I worked 40 years in the oil patch and have made quite good money. I am just looking to have fun and combine my USCG and ASA certificates legally. All good here.
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All ASA certs are recreational level only, so dont apply to passengers for hire.
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22-01-2021, 09:45
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#39
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 48
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Re: Can I downgrade to OUPV?
People! Call the extremely helpful and knowledgeable folks at the NMC! It's hard for me to believe that they 'haven't been helpful'. I've called them countless times, and every time I've gotten courteous and professional help, and the correct information. Almost as if they're the last bastion of intelligence and accurate information for customer service.
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22-01-2021, 10:03
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#40
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: W Carib
Boat: Wildcat 35, Hobie 33
Posts: 12,467
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Re: Can I downgrade to OUPV?
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Originally Posted by BVIbrian
People! Call the extremely helpful and knowledgeable folks at the NMC! It's hard for me to believe that they 'haven't been helpful'. I've called them countless times, and every time I've gotten courteous and professional help, and the correct information. Almost as if they're the last bastion of intelligence and accurate information for customer service.
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+1....
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22-01-2021, 13:24
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#41
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2017
Boat: FP Helia 44
Posts: 50
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Re: Can I downgrade to OUPV?
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Originally Posted by BVIbrian
People! Call the extremely helpful and knowledgeable folks at the NMC! It's hard for me to believe that they 'haven't been helpful'. I've called them countless times, and every time I've gotten courteous and professional help, and the correct information. Almost as if they're the last bastion of intelligence and accurate information for customer service.
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Of course I called NMC first off. Interesting that they outsource their helpline she gave me the wrong answer of "same as your Master rating"
I give Pandor gold star for correct answer:
46 §15.905 Uninspected passenger vessels.
(a) An individual holding a license or MMC endorsed as master or pilot of an inspected self-propelled vessel is authorized to serve as operator of an uninspected passenger vessel of less than 100 GRT within any restrictions, other than tonnage limitations, on the individual's license or MMC.
Interesting how the thread drifted into making money, insurance, tonnage calculations and other not requested topics but I enjoyed all the responses.  
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23-01-2021, 08:29
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#42
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: East Coast
Boat: 2018 Senesco 110'
Posts: 164
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Re: Can I downgrade to OUPV?
Or the online chat feature.
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23-01-2021, 12:11
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#43
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Jacksonville FL
Boat: Albin Vega 27
Posts: 69
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Re: Can I downgrade to OUPV?
You can restrict your tonnage and keep your license. I have a 1600 GRT license with Oceans. Because I am retired and no longer drive tugboats, my tonnage on the renewal will cause my license to be Restricted to 300 GRT but I’ll still have the 1600 ton license.
Hold onto your license if you can
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