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Old 06-12-2016, 13:51   #1
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ASA not longer recognizes other certifications.

I got this in an email today.

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Effective immediately, ASA will no longer be issuing cross certifications from other sailing associations, including RYA, CYA, IYT or ISPA. Students possessing any of these certifications will need to challenge the appropriate ASA levels to become ASA certified.
I wonder if the others will reciprocate?
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Old 06-12-2016, 14:25   #2
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Looks like more of the USA is becoming isolationistic! Very sad if it is true.
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Re: ASA not longer recognizes other certifications.

Sounds like an attempt to increase income, not much to do with legitimacy of the other certifications.

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Re: ASA not longer recognizes other certifications.

Not like ASA certification means very much anyway.
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Not like ASA certification means very much anyway.
I could never quite understand the emphasis on ASA certifications, other than sailing lessons. In years past, if you wanted to charter a boat, they would check to see that your credit card had a high enough limit, and get you away from the dock and say "have a good time, Skip". Not even close to getting your USCG ticket.
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Sounds like an attempt to increase income, not much to do with legitimacy of the other certifications.
Yup as always, just follow the money .
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Old 06-12-2016, 16:01   #7
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Re: ASA not longer recognizes other certifications.

Not sure this is new. I inquired about this a year ago, and got a similar answer. I don't know if it's due to hubris or greed. For sure ASA and US Sailing certs from most schools are close to worthless, as they will routinely certify any student that completes their class, no matter the actual qualifications.
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I got this in an email today.



I wonder if the others will reciprocate?
Who sent you the email?

IIRC, this has been the case for a long time.
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Re: ASA not longer recognizes other certifications.

I always thought the RYA certifications were more serious, more credible and had a bigger acceptance worldwide in what regards qualifications, but I must have been wrong.
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Who sent you the email?

IIRC, this has been the case for a long time.
Charlie Nobles sent it.

I crossed over from CYA / Sail Canada about 5 years ago. I had to do the 214 certification, which was logical.
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Looks like more of the USA is becoming isolationistic! Very sad if it is true.
You really should keep your political opinions to yourself. Someone might start making remarks concerning Canadian hypocrisy in their foreign policies, as well as how they rely upon the USA for their existence. (politically,militarily, economically, etc.)
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Charlie Nobles sent it.

I crossed over from CYA / Sail Canada about 5 years ago. I had to do the 214 certification, which was logical.
May the "effctive immediately" was part a of an old email he copied, because Im fairly certain this has been the case for years. Long ago there was some limited cross certification.

Ive had a few students challenge the prereq standards so they could complete 114 since ASA has one of the few cruising cat classes.

You were looking to do cross certification at the instructor (214) level?
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May the "effctive immediately" was part a of an old email he copied, because Im fairly certain this has been the case for years. Long ago there was some limited cross certification.

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Nope, not an old email, I just recieved the same email from ASA.
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Re: ASA not longer recognizes other certifications.

I travel all over by crewing on other peoples boats.
When I decided that I needed some form of credentials
to convey to potential skippers
other than "I know how to sail"
I investigated the various differences between ASA and RYA
RYA won hands down, no contest.
I then spent a month in the UK and qualified up to
Coastal Skipper/Tidal and got my ICC to boot
The British take their sailing and certifications seriously,very seriously
and in my opinion RYA is held in much higher regard than ASA
This was confirmed to me by many conversations with many
skippers in Europe over the past few years.
Can't think of any reason why I would ever bother to even try to
cross certify with ASA. For me the only
US certification that would make any sense would be a USCG Six Pack
I'm an American living in NJ
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ASA certification is not worthless such certification is required for bareboat charters in Croatia
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