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Old 24-04-2017, 13:09   #16
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Re: What too do when a dirt bag repair shop holds your boat hostage

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Who, where? Everyone needs to know!
No, we don't / can't allow that, I think reason why is plain.
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Re: What too do when a dirt bag repair shop holds your boat hostage

Give him the 4 grand and get the boat out of there. A mechanic should be able to put it back together for less than 2 grand. You are talking about less than 2 days work. Take him to court after you get the boat and parts back.
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Re: What too do when a dirt bag repair shop holds your boat hostage

In Florida. you can go to the Clerk of Courts office and take your paperwork for billing with you. You then post a bond for the bill with the clerk and get a writ of release of mechanics lien. With that writ, you call the Sheriff's office and they will go with you to recover the property. A court date is then set to bring it before a county judge who decides who gets what.
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Re: What too do when a dirt bag repair shop holds your boat hostage

^^^^Great post. the voice of experience! Thanks.

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Old 25-04-2017, 01:50   #20
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Re: What too do when a dirt bag repair shop holds your boat hostage

If the guy is shaky financially, you.won't get much by suing him.

Think I'd be gathering a small group of large friends to pay him a visit and encourage a non-stop, no-breaks, no phome calls, work party to put it all back together. Or call the local prosecutor to see if there is a criminal fraud case. Your mechanic may find the threat of jail very inspirational and motivate him toward an improved work ethic.
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Old 25-04-2017, 05:53   #21
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Re: What too do when a dirt bag repair shop holds your boat hostage

In Florida, given your age, I would file an Exploitation of the Elderly charge against him. Those are financial driven investigations when older folks are swindled out of money. They usually get good attention and can be high profile, i.e. hurt his business!

If all else fails do at Troy Landry would say "Choot Em!"
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Old 25-04-2017, 11:23   #22
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Re: What too do when a dirt bag repair shop holds your boat hostage

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Owing a 2860 Regal Commodore , 2005 with Volvo Penta 4.3 gas engines
Had a engine starting issue . Could not get it going and decided too trailer my 31 ft 9thousand lb boat into a so called friend who owns a boat service shop here in the Orlando area
SO called friend is a customer of mine and we built up a friendly boat chat relationship .
Always saying any help you need, parts, repairs call.
His primary business is on line e commerce boat parts company that sells all over thru ebay . Besides his on line business he has a small shop were he repairs IO & outboards . Besides this he does warranty repairs for a outboard engine company ( nameless for now )
This so called guy has taken my boat as hostage and we have possibly legal issues which I am trying too avoid
Feb 3 trailed boat too this guy
Goes over engines telling me water intrusion needing heads, manifolds & risers on both engines.
Manifold & risers were changed 3 years ago always flushed .
Feb 16 guy sends me an work order for parts & labor 5300.00
Feb 17 A deposit too do the job in the amount of $ 4000.00
This man has taken both engines apart
Received all parts Feb 30 .
During March & April I have called, texted, emails , visited local many times too check on my boat
Boat not locked behind a gate in a common driveway for many business. Row stores like a storage facility except access . Boat not seen from main road .
This guy has dodged me ,
Excuse after excuse , verbal promises never doing any work
Last week he tells me get your boat out of his facility. Was a mistake taking on this job he is a one man shop and can only work in short spirts .
None of this was ever discussed
When he told me too get the boat out, I said no problem , I want a full refund . He says NO . He purchased parts . Can not return .
I said I cant take your parts someplace else too finish what you started
I called VISA and opened a fraud claim .
I am a visa customer , telling visa this guy is a user of visa. He took my money too do a job and months has passed not doing the job . He is a representative of Visa ..
He has destroyed my boat
Removed 3 wheels saying he did so for security
Removed engine hatch exposing engines too environment
Boat is covered with tarp
Props removed for safety
Made a whole in floor under hatch ( not seen ) too get riser out ?
This guy has all my parts. old and new parts holding everything hostage
I called local police and wanted an escort . Police don't get involved except boat on a common driveway , I have clear title, he is holding my boat
I wanted escort so there is no fist fight since I am 70 and he is around 50 NO WAY AM I GETTING MY BOAT BACK he says unless I don't block Visa and he gets his money for parts plus labor
Bottom line boat is a 50 thousand dollar boat , getting trashed by this scum bag . I am calling legal tomorrow never expecting anything like this from a so called business acquaintance .

Besides the obvious blasting him on ebay , and on line too hurt his business
I paid he is not doing job and now he is holding my boat hostage with all my parts

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Well, I understand your frustration.

Not that I am siding with the service provider in any way, but to render an opinion in this case, I would need to hear both sides of the story.

Whatever the case, it is clear that both parties are unhappy with the business / customer relationship.

It may be too late for this, but your greatest chance of success, may very well be to do what it takes to mend the relationship. Swallowed pride, respectful communication and compromise from both parties can likely solve this, or could have.
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Re: What too do when a dirt bag repair shop holds your boat hostage

Doesn't your membership in Boat USA cover a review of this transaction? Boats have personality under Maritime Law, and as Treasurer of the local boat club I have been known to call our Maritime Lawyer and proceed. The advantage it that he can't respond without hiring a Maritime lawyer as well. Don't do anything that might prejudice your claim. At $50k plus you need a pro on the case.
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Re: What too do when a dirt bag repair shop holds your boat hostage

FOLLOW UP , Interesting week since I posted on this forum
Main purpose posting was hoping somebody has similar issue and what results
Most responders were man up , hire a lawyer or beat the **** out of the guy.
All those thoughts ran thru my head
Never getting my question answered, which really was when does it become theft ?
Its a CIVIL matter, since I gave funds , but there was a contract and shop did not preform what we was in writing Parts & labor.
I would have gotten my money back from Visa except there is labor issue.
Entire situation stinks

Knowing best way too resolve was talk, not scream.
no winners
We spoke civil . What ever I said must have hit a nerve knowing I was right .

This week this guy finished 75 % . He said he painted and put everything back as if engines were his and look beautiful.

Will follow up when everything is done and I can put this behind me as another adventure .
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Re: What too do when a dirt bag repair shop holds your boat hostage

Interesting, thanks for the updates.
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Re: What too do when a dirt bag repair shop holds your boat hostage

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FOLLOW UP , Interesting week since I posted on this forum
Main purpose posting was hoping somebody has similar issue and what results
Most responders were man up , hire a lawyer or beat the **** out of the guy.
All those thoughts ran thru my head
Never getting my question answered, which really was when does it become theft ?
Its a CIVIL matter, since I gave funds , but there was a contract and shop did not preform what we was in writing Parts & labor.
I would have gotten my money back from Visa except there is labor issue.
Entire situation stinks

Knowing best way too resolve was talk, not scream.
no winners
We spoke civil . What ever I said must have hit a nerve knowing I was right .

This week this guy finished 75 % . He said he painted and put everything back as if engines were his and look beautiful.

Will follow up when everything is done and I can put this behind me as another adventure .
Good deal. Congratulations.
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