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Old 23-02-2013, 05:47   #1
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Nordhaven, and???

just curious. if you take the long range aspect of the nord 40, what else compares? what other 40' class boats can circumnavigate?

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Old 23-02-2013, 05:58   #3
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at 2.5 million base, i dont think its a logical choice for comparison.
its also 64' not 40'
for some reason i thought they made a 46' but i guess not.
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Nordhaven, and???

I think the Selene-42 would be close to the Nordhaven 40

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Old 23-02-2013, 07:22   #5
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those are really nice yachts
if only i had been saving for 8 years now...
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Old 23-02-2013, 07:35   #6
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Kadey-Krogen might be in a similar group of boats. They make that size and price is similar.
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Old 23-02-2013, 07:42   #7
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those are really nice yachts
if only i had been saving for 8 years now...
Selene is the cheaper version of a Nordhaven.

If you cannot afford a Selene then you may want to stop looking at Nordhaven which is the top end
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Any 40' boat is pushing it because you can only carry so much fuel which in turn constrains your range. The Nordhavn carries 920gal, where the Kadey 39' and Selene '42 both only carry 700gal. I don't know if that means you can't do it, but it will be that much harder and restrictive on where you can go. Smaller boats doing a long passage end up having to go very slow - like 5 kts - to get the needed range. And if you carry less fuel, then you need to go even slower.

I think an interesting test is to see how many of each boat have done ocean crossings. Clearly the Nordhavns have, but I'd guess the number of 40'ers can be counted on one hand, perhaps even one finger. Does anyone know about Selenes or Kadeys in this size range? That number might be zero.

The larger Nordhavns (say 50' and up) do it all the time. And I know one Kadey (a 58' I think) participated in the Atlantic Rally a few years ago. On the bigger boats it's much easier to carry enough fuel and still have room for everything else, and the extra LWL helps too. I'm building a Nordhavn 60 and recently got performance data from a sister ship. At 8kts it can go 4000nm with 10% reserve, and 2500nm at 9kts. That will put a crossing behind you pretty quickly, at least in boat terms.
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Old 23-02-2013, 12:32   #11
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Any yacht has ocean crossing capabilities.... on a freighter. For the number of times one makes a major crossing, it's ultimately cheaper to ship the boat to your next location. When all things are considered, wear and tear, fuel costs, food, supplies, I'm certain from my own experiences that I'll be shipping our boat the next time.

I'm still fixing stuff like the turbo, that the delivery crew toasted on our last 1400 mile passage. Buy the yacht you want, forget about the long distance range... And have it shipped.
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Old 23-02-2013, 12:35   #12
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Selene is the cheaper version of a Nordhaven.

If you cannot afford a Selene then you may want to stop looking at Nordhaven which is the top end
i am not thinking about the nord for myself, i have always admired it because it can world tour at 40'.
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We have a Selene 47 (for sale) that is capable of the voyage, though I would certainly make a few mods such as storm window covers. Fuel load of 900 gallons is good for about 2,700nm (no spare). Obviously to avoid running out of fuel you would need to do some careful route and weather planning.
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Read Beebe, any sound vessel with a full displacement hull, small diesel, large fuel tanks, and paravanes can easily cross oceans. Get yourself a retired fishing boat and you're all set to go.
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Read Beebe, any sound vessel with a full displacement hull, small diesel, large fuel tanks, and paravanes can easily cross oceans. Get yourself a retired fishing boat and you're all set to go.
But that is such hard work... saw it on TV... deadliest catch etc.
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