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Old 22-07-2021, 12:58   #46
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This is really gorgeous and sorta reminds me of boatpoker's boat - which is near you right now, Glenn, at Trentport.

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Old 22-07-2021, 13:21   #47
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What about a Leopard 43 cat. Cheap to run. Great for Caribbean and will work on
ICW and the loop.

They were delivered on their own bottoms to the Caribbean from Cape Town. But can also be shipped. A lot of space in a small boat.

You can also pick up a 51 pc for under $600k. Stunning boat.

These boats are easy to operate and relatively cheap to run and maintain.

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Why on earth would you buy a motor vessel to do a trans-atlantic crossing? After the first day at sea, you have seen it all. Plus if you desire the experience, jump on a cruise ship and make the crossing.

Instead, buy two smaller vessels, keep one in the Caribbean and the other in the Med.
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Why on earth would you buy a motor vessel to do a trans-atlantic crossing? After the first day at sea, you have seen it all. Plus if you desire the experience, jump on a cruise ship and make the crossing.

Instead, buy two smaller vessels, keep one in the Caribbean and the other in the Med.
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Why on earth would you buy a motor vessel to do a trans-atlantic crossing? After the first day at sea, you have seen it all.
Exact same could be said of a sailboat...but lots of people do it.
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My wife's thinking was if we already own the boat, for just the cost of diesel we could spend months in southern France, Italy, Greece, etc, and really our own costs would be food and the occasional sliprental if we choose not to anchor instead.

Compared to flights and hotel stays for the same time period, I think it would be similar cost at the end of the day, plus you have the comfort of bringing your home with you.

That being said, as I posted earlier, I don't think we will find something that is suitable in our price range, so instead I am thinking of limiting our liveaboard life to Caribbean islands which should give us better options for boats in our price range.


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Instead, buy two smaller vessels, keep one in the Caribbean and the other in the Med.
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I don't think I would want to go much bigger then that, but I should have added in my post that my wife prefers something a bit more modern looking.



Most of what I have found only have a range of few hundred nm



For example, she loves the look and style of this:

https://www.boattrader.com/boat/2017...erseo-7949022/



But its too long, too expensive, and only has a range of 315nm.



Is there any company that makes class A rated boats, with the required range, that would be newer style?



Or am I limited to older commercial boats that have been or need renovation?


That’s a planing boat that will wallow about and probably doesn’t have the stability to deal with heavy weather. You power it at displacement speeds and the range would double or triple But that’s still not enough.

You want a displacement hull with a 100-200hp motor. A Nordhavn would do the trick if you can find one in the price range.

I have acquaintances that went around the world on a NordHavn 46 and spent $59k in fuel. Even with the Nordhavn they were getting about 3mpg at 6kt if I recall correctly.

Carib to the Med is about 3400nm, that’s 563hr at 6kt or 23d.
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You want a displacement hull with a 100-200hp motor. A Nordhavn would do the trick if you can find one in the price range.

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One for sale in Langkawi
A bit small for my liking but....

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I have tried to add some file for the leopard 43 Pc.

Personally I would get the newest boat I can afford.

Maybe do some charters first if you not sure.
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We have friends we met in Antigua. Their Hatteras 52 I think will be available soon. The boat is beautiful and well maintained, presently in St Lucia getting an exterior paint job. It is well appointed, comfortable and capable. Send a PM if you would like to connect.
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I would be looking at a Hatteras Long Range Cruiser or something similar in whatever size you like. "Displacement" and "speed" are mutually exclusive. As are "sleek" and "roomy." I would give up on the PWC in favor of a hot little center-cockpit RHIB that can serve as both grocery-getter and speedboat. I think you'll have to convince your bride that the sleek, modern look is simply not conducive to your intended use. I agree with what's been said about sport fishers, and about defining requirements before falling in love with a certain "look."
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Honestly, the stern garage desire will limit you to large, expensive European style fast motoryachts (which have plenty of disadvantages). Just about anything that's not targeted at rich people in the Med won't have a garage. Realistically, carrying a decent size RIB isn't too hard on many boats. But carrying a PWC is tough, mostly because they're fairly heavy.
You should know that much of the Caribbean prohibits a PWC. Toys tend to be go fas dinghy, kite board, electric foiling board, wind surfer and the new thingy foil board with hand held kite-sail. In the high places, we see occasional parasail flyers.
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My wife's thinking was if we already own the boat, for just the cost of diesel we could spend months in southern France, Italy, Greece, etc, and really our own costs would be food and the occasional sliprental if we choose not to anchor instead.



Compared to flights and hotel stays for the same time period, I think it would be similar cost at the end of the day, plus you have the comfort of bringing your home with you.
Yes but you don’t need to buy a hotel to stay in it or keep fixing the hotel to stay in it.

Keeping a boat in the Med is expensive. Keeping a big powerboat is even more expensive

“ slip rental” alone in peak seasons in the Med is approaching hotel pricing. Even anchoring is to free anymore in many places.

Perhaps the Caribbean might be better but similar issues apply there in my experience

Buying the boat is the cheap part !!
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I have tried to add some file for the leopard 43 Pc.

Personally I would get the newest boat I can afford.

Maybe do some charters first if you not sure.
Interesting the new 53pc vs the 51pc. Identical except when range comes into it due to the larger fuel tanks on the 53. 2200L
581gal US vs 1500L 396 gal US
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