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Simi 60 · 21-07-2021, 21:26

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Originally Posted by Sharked

Do you think either of these two model is suitable for live-aboard in the Caribbean?

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/199...sport-3851219/
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...yacht-3811435/

Seems on the cheaper side for the amount of boat you get

Nup, no good at all imho

Sharked · 21-07-2021, 21:30

Any reasons why? Or just not your style?

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Nup, no good at all imho

Wheelguns · 21-07-2021, 21:37

The ocean yacht with twin 892ta’s will burn approx 70 gals an hr at 20kts.

Simi 60 · 21-07-2021, 22:05

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Originally Posted by Sharked

Any reasons why? Or just not your style?

Too hot, sun flogs down on those fronts and windows making it a hotbox, not enough shade, not enough space, not enough range, not enough, not enough

Weekend toys or for a few weeks away skipping between marinas and fuel supply but in no way a serious full time cruiser

Wheelguns · 21-07-2021, 22:29

Not to mention that most sportfisherman have non opening windows. This is because these boats are designed to go fast in the ocean swells. They eventually all leak. So you are at the mercy of your climate control and your generator. Sportfisherman don’t make very good cruising boats unless the owners do alot of fishing.

ranger58sb · 22-07-2021, 05:11

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Originally Posted by Sharked

Would you all have any recommendations for Ocean Yachts or Class A rated motor yachts?

I didn't realize you meant Ocean Yachts -- the brand.

FYI, their sportfishers have a reputation for running faster than many of their competitor's similar models. They also have a reputation for cracked keels if not blocked properly after being hauled. You can find references to that online.

-Chris

rslifkin · 22-07-2021, 05:23

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Originally Posted by Sharked

Do you think either of these two model is suitable for live-aboard in the Caribbean?

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/199...sport-3851219/
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...yacht-3811435/

Seems on the cheaper side for the amount of boat you get

Do some reading on the Ocean Yachts. For their older models, some are reasonably well liked, others not so much (and I'm not sure about the 53). As older sport fishes go, they're reasonably fast and efficient and a pretty good layout.

I know nothing about the Delta Pacific.

goboatingnow · 22-07-2021, 06:51

If you do t need to go anywhere fast get a displacement trawler style. Otherwise you pay a fortune for those engines and they eat up
Acommendation

mako · 22-07-2021, 07:05

OP I think you and your family need to better define your SOR, your requirements. You’re all over the place with these discussions and questions. Sport fishermen and “trawlers” are opposite ends of the spectrum. Shipping a 60ft boat twice a year across the Atlantic is expensive and puts wear and tear on the boat also. How long do you reasonably expect own the boat? 10 years? less? Build a budget, an SOR, and build a clearer picture.

Sharked · 22-07-2021, 08:06

Your right, I am all over the place as I am trying to narrow my choices down in order to make a good decision.

Its possible that what I am looking for doesn't exist, and I will have to make some compromises.

My wife likes newer style looking boats, and European sport cruisers, which is why I am trying to find something in that look that meets my other requirements.

However most of those are too small for live on months a time or too expensive.

We were thinking to spend at least 10 years on the boat, if our health remains good.

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Originally Posted by mako

OP I think you and your family need to better define your SOR, your requirements. You’re all over the place with these discussions and questions. Sport fishermen and “trawlers” are opposite ends of the spectrum. Shipping a 60ft boat twice a year across the Atlantic is expensive and puts wear and tear on the boat also. How long do you reasonably expect own the boat? 10 years? less? Build a budget, an SOR, and build a clearer picture.

goboatingnow · 22-07-2021, 09:12

By the way if the caribean and the Med are requirements. Why not buy two slightly smaller boats. The shipping costs alone over a couple of years would buy you a boat

Sharked · 22-07-2021, 09:34

I don't think we will find something that is suitable to do ocean crossings in our budget that we both like. I think for the first few years we will stick to the Caribbean and ICW.

mako · 22-07-2021, 10:12

OP, you mentioned a budget of $500-600k. Say purchase price of 500, leaving 100 for upgrades and repairs. That is quite realistic and doable for an older fiberglass trawler in good condition. IMO, I would drop the idea of a sportfisherman or anything with high HP engines. Tons of semi-displacement trawlers out there and some full displacement. For long term cruising, shoot for 50ft, with a max of 65ft (19.8m). Much smaller than that and there are too many compromises in room and headroom in the engineroom.

Sharked · 22-07-2021, 10:40

The only reason I mentioned sportfish, is I like the sleek clean look of them.
I am not looking for high HP engines

If I could find something like this:
- had the hull/displacement of a trawler
- diesel engine that is efficient but able to go faster if needed
- everything above the waterline had the sleek clean looks of a sportfish

So below the waterline a safe dependable trawler, but above the waterline a sportfish style look

I think that would be my ideal boat?

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Originally Posted by mako

OP, you mentioned a budget of $500-600k. Say purchase price of 500, leaving 100 for upgrades and repairs. That is quite realistic and doable for an older fiberglass trawler in good condition. IMO, I would drop the idea of a sportfisherman or anything with high HP engines. Tons of semi-displacement trawlers out there and some full displacement. For long term cruising, shoot for 50ft, with a max of 65ft (19.8m). Much smaller than that and there are too many compromises in room and headroom in the engineroom.

mvweebles · 22-07-2021, 12:04

I believe someone else mentioned the Beneteau Swift Trawler. Here's a video review of the ST44. Available for under $400k USD in the US (most are in Europe). While not the windshield is not heavily sloped like the Euro-yachts your wife likes, it has a distinctly modern look to it. Beneteau's use of space is very clever.