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Old 24-09-2024, 06:42   #1
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Insurance for a repaired boat

I bought a Leopard 53 Powercat that wrecked was partially submerged. The starboard hull is being repaired at the moment, new rudders, the starboard drive shaft and bearings are being replaced.

Wondering if anybody has suggestions on insurance coverage once she passes inspection for hull integrity. She will still be a long way from functional (no power, no electronics, no engines).
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Old 24-09-2024, 07:39   #2
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Re: Insurance for a repaired boat

My suggestion is to talk to a local insurance broker.
Personally, I would be surprised if there was any interest in insuring a hulk.
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Old 24-09-2024, 08:10   #3
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I'll be surprised if I have a big problem getting insurance. The hull can be repaired and the electrical items replaced.
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Old 24-09-2024, 08:44   #4
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Start locally because this will involve detailed inspection of the vessel by many parties involved. Every component that impacts its seaworthiness will need to be "certified" and that implies some specific professional attesting to such and thence taking professional liability to such certification. Thjs is not just an ordinary repair jockey engagement by a boat mechanic. One is seeking warranted repairs for a salvaged boat similar in effect to the ship builder's certification and to have similar financial backing.

I suspect that the vessel that was damaged and submerged was subject to an insurance claim by the previous owner, hence the vessel is likely included in a database of vessels that have been damaged. A submerged vessel likely was considered a write-off by the insurance. I doubt that the insurer that made a settlement on the damaged vessel will have any continuing desire to extend new coverage on the repaired vessel.

A lot of repairs / refitting will be involved and any insurer will require a complete marine survey completed and submitted as part of their underwriting due diligence and determination of insurability and risk transfer exposure especially on a large [potentially high value asset]. Obtaining interim insurance on a partially repaired / refitted vessel, raises yet more questions and doubts than answers to all underwriters. I write potentially high value because a boat that has been submerged could have nil or negative values, not real marketable value or even use value; it may have some salvageable components value.

One will be in need of at least liability insurance in order to have the vessel be moored or kept in a marina, and in your case to be commercially transported to your desired continuing repair location. Without liability insurance you will become restricted to berthing it at your private dock [behind your home on a canal] or at anchor on your own ground tackle, not a leased mooring. Your destination options will be limited both temporary transit and long-term.

Obtaining insurance is going to be a challenge. Realize that it is much easier for underwriters to simply take a pass and decline considering extending coverage on a questionable [doubtful] integrity vessel. It is not worth their effort to assess the risk. It has already sunk once.* If insurance is offered I would expect it to be with special limits as to its clauses / covenants and coverage [the devil is in the detailed language] and if a claim is submitted there likely will be many factors that the underwriter can raise as to the vessel's suitability for purpose and seaworthiness that they can use to decline a claim or limit a claim, or to state that a repair / refit was substandard or faulty and attempt to shift liability.

And one should expect that any policy that is offered likely will come at a comparatively higher price.

You have purchased a can of worms and all the issues that arise with such.

Good luck with your adventure.
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Re: Insurance for a repaired boat

Did you ever get insurance for your boat? Was your boat deemed salvaged by an insurance carrier due to a claim? I'm curious if it was salvaged and you were able to get insurance for it. I've tried to insure a salvaged boat for an elderly couple the carriers would not touch it so I would love to know who the carrier is so I can approach them and get appointed to help others. Thanks and Cheers!
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I got a traditional marine insurance policy through Charter Lakes. The policy amount is based on today's value which is a fraction of restored value.

My boat was never salvaged.

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I got a traditional marine insurance policy through Charter Lakes. The policy amount is based on today's value which is a fraction of restored value.

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Thanks for the info...I'm looking for a carrier that will consider a salvaged boat. Since the hurricane i am getting several calls of people who bought a salvaged boat, fixed it, hoping/needing insurance. Thanks!!
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