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Old 19-01-2020, 05:46   #1
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DeFever 58 trawler NMPG?

I am looking at a defever 58 for sale on the west coast, and need to bring it to Florida if I buy it. It has twin 150HP engines, and 1500 gallons of fuel tankage. Realistically what can I expect to burn on that trip? I was guessing 2NMPG average. I want to make sure I am not too far off, and 0.5NMPG would be $5000 additional for the trip. I believe the trip to be 8000 miles so at 2NMPG the cost would be $20,000. I just can't find a boat like this, in this price range, with this fuel range on the east coast. Now 20,000 would be the budget, but I would hope to score some cheaper fuel than $5 a gallon that I would budget for. I have heard rumors that Panama has cheap fuel. My experience is limited to an 8 ton 42' sailboat with 60HP getting 6-8NMPG under power.

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Re: DeFever 58 trawler NMPG?

Fuel In Panama on the Caribbean side last year was 3.50 ish a gallon. You can easily reach out to marinas on both sides to confirm current prices. I'd think that boat would have a hard time getting 2nmpg but you may be able to confirm on a dfeever group or trawler forum, also the price for going thru the canal has almost doubled starting this year.
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Suggest you join the DeFever Cruisers Group (DeFeverCruisers.com). It is a very active group, with a great number of knowledgeable people. Once you join the group, you will have access to their Forum, where you can pose your question to the members, a number of them who may own the same boat/engines combination you are looking at, and will be able to accurately answer your questions.

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With that insight I wonder what it would cost to move it from lewiston to Omaha by truck at 17' wide. I know east coats is super expensive, but west coast might be less.
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With that insight I wonder what it would cost to move it from lewiston to Omaha by truck at 17' wide. I know east coats is super expensive, but west coast might be less.
Yes, wondering what it might cost to truck it from San Diego to shortest most point in the Gulf ?
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Go to sandiegocaptains.com. They will provide answers to all your questions. They have delivered over 40,000 nm for me and are the best delivery captains and most knowledgeable guys out there.
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Re: DeFever 58 trawler NMPG?

[QUOTE=sailnow2011;3058568]I am looking at a defever 58 for sale on the west coast, and need to bring it to Florida if I buy it. It has twin 150HP engines, and 1500 gallons of fuel tankage. Realistically what can I expect to burn on that trip? I was guessing 2NMPG average. I want to make sure I am not too far off, and 0.5NMPG would be $5000 additional for the trip.

My 49 (62,000lbs) burns approx 4 gals/hr at cruising speed of 7.5-8 knts. (twin 225hp @ 1700 rpm). Note that is less than "displacement hull speed" otherwise stern squat & large bow wave inefficiency. (Maxed out at 2600 rpm I burn triple the fuel and only achieve 10 knts.)
With your 58, you should be able to achieve 2 Nm/gal w/o the generator but with your larger displacement, may need to stay under 8 knts. Sounds like a great trip! Enjoy!
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This is the kind of discussion topic question and responses which makes CF a pleasure. Polite, factual, helpful.

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Had you investigated shipping her as deck cargo?
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That is a nice looking Defever. The answer depends on how fast you go and more importantly, no breakdowns. I know of Defever POC with a factory stern extension. I think it is a 62'. It is already in the Caribbean and not yet listed. It is supposed to be for sale soon...
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I owned a 55' Fleming and at trawler speed 8-9 k I would average about 1NMPG light wind no current. A little less if running the genset. I would think a DeFever 58' would have about the same performance. DeFever or a DeFever dealer should have a
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My GB 42 with similar engines is about 2 NMPG at 7.5 knots. Your displacement will be considerably more so I would guess 1.5 NMPG. It depends on how you run the engines. Mine are at 1550 RPM. Generally, slower will be more efficient. You might get 2.0 NMPG at 6.5 - 7.0 knots. Thatís a WAG. The Defever forum would be a better source.
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I am looking at a defever 58 for sale on the west coast, and need to bring it to Florida if I buy it. It has twin 150HP engines, and 1500 gallons of fuel tankage. Realistically what can I expect to burn on that trip? I was guessing 2NMPG average. I want to make sure I am not too far off, and 0.5NMPG would be $5000 additional for the trip. I believe the trip to be 8000 miles so at 2NMPG the cost would be $20,000. I just can't find a boat like this, in this price range, with this fuel range on the east coast. Now 20,000 would be the budget, but I would hope to score some cheaper fuel than $5 a gallon that I would budget for. I have heard rumors that Panama has cheap fuel. My experience is limited to an 8 ton 42' sailboat with 60HP getting 6-8NMPG under power.

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Keep in mind that the vessel cost is just the cost of admission. Generally, a low purchase price means more $$ to make her seaworthy.
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Old 26-01-2020, 18:06   #14
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Re: DeFever 58 trawler NMPG?

I delivered dozens of boats in this size range, including some from California to Florida, and a Cheoy Lee 62 from California to Hawaii. 1nmpg is a good overall number. Newer hulls and newer engines can do better - 1.5 nmpg at similar speed. You can go slower and reduce cost considerably, but all a tradeoff - time vs money, wx risk, etc.

Putting on 1000+ gallons can be done at reduced cost via fuel bunker services in large ports, especially if paying cash - find a good place onboard to stash a lot of cash
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