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25-09-2011, 21:40
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: North of Baltimore
Boat: Ericson 27 & 18' Herrmann Catboat
Posts: 3,798
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Why Do Inexperienced People, with No Knowledge, Offer Advice ?
More than a few times I have had to combat the misinformation that some swingin sumpthin-sumpthin and buddies gave to a customer.
What they don't realize is that it just increases the owners' stress level.
I takes me a lot of time to try to counteract this. I don't mind doing it.
My favorite is the one where the owner of a boat got a bunch of
(B)advice on a fuel (Gas) problem......One said Gas-Drier, One said Paint Thinner, One said Acetone, One said Gumout, One said MMO.
What was in his tank did not smell like gasoline....smelled like a toxic waste dump.
Thankfully, when I pulled the tank, I found numerous pinholes in the top........New Tank, Rebuilt carb and Gas (Only) solved the problem.
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25-09-2011, 22:08
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Philippines in the winters
Boat: It’s in French Polynesia now
Posts: 11,372
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Re: Why do people, who have no experience
Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself. ~Leo Nikolaevich Tolstoy
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Faithful are the Wounds of a Friend, but the Kisses of the Enemy are Deceitful! ........
The measure of a man is how he navigates to a proper shore in the midst of a storm!
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25-09-2011, 22:38
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Vancouver, Wash.
Boat: no longer on my Cabo Rico 38 Sanderling
Posts: 1,810
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Re: Why do people, who have no experience
The main problem when giving advice is that all of the facts are not given in the request for information. Then when you sort through everyone's personal experience based on their preception of what the problem is and combine that with the mis-information from those that haven't a clue, you're better off doing it your way. And let the thread drift off into mindless trivia.
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25-09-2011, 22:49
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Moderator... short for Cat Wrangler
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: San Francisco
Boat: Cal 28 Flush Deck
Posts: 5,559
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Re: Why do people, who have no experience
Or the people giving the advice don't listen to all the information given and base their advice on an incomplete grasp of the challenge...
Of course there is always just the general hammer/nail issue...
My Dad always says if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail... Lots of times people are just swinging their hammers...
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Sara
ain't what ya do, it's the way that ya do it...
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26-09-2011, 01:56
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: We're technically refugees from our home in Yemen now living in Lebenon
Boat: 1978 CT48
Posts: 5,969
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Re: Why do people, who have no experience
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Originally Posted by sarafina
Lots of times people are just swinging their hammers...
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Its early morning where I'm at  ....lets try and keep this clean huh!!
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S/V Arctic Lady
I love my boat, I can't afford not to!
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26-09-2011, 04:35
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
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Re: Why do people, who have no experience
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Originally Posted by Chief Engineer
always offer advice while having no knowledge?.
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kind of like a lot of advise given on a forum
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Don't ask a bunch of unknown forum people if it is OK to do something on YOUR boat. It is your boat, do what you want! 
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26-09-2011, 05:14
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Chambly, Québec, Canada
Boat: It will be an Island Packet 38 most probably
Posts: 119
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Re: Why do people, who have no experience
What I don't appreciate is when you ask for specific information and the answer you get is off track. Let's say you want information on how a boat sails and you get answers about its configuration
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Fair winds and following seas!! 
Dominique
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26-09-2011, 05:39
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Valencia, Spain
Boat: SAGA 27 AK
Posts: 509
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Re: Why do people, who have no experience
People (especially on a forum like this) just want to help, so they tell you what they think is the answer tou your query. It's up to you, the person asking the question, to filter the responses you think apply.
If people want definitive answers they should ask a professional, who'll probably charge them. It's a forum for goodness sake...
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Sweet are the uses of adversity.
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26-09-2011, 05:53
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cruiser
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tampa Bay area
Boat: Hunter 31'
Posts: 5,731
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Re: Why do people, who have no experience
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Engineer
always offer advice while having no knowledge?
More than a few times I have had to combat the misinformation that some swingin sumpthin-sumpthin and buddies gave to a customer.
What they don't realize is that it just increases the owners' stress level.
I takes me a lot of time to try to counteract this. I don't mind doing it.
My favorite is the one where the owner of a boat got a bunch of
(B)advice on a fuel (Gas) problem......One said Gas-Drier, One said Paint Thinner, One said Acetone, One said Gumout, One said MMO.
What was in his tank did not smell like gasoline....smelled like a toxic waste dump.
Thankfully, when I pulled the tank, I found numerous pinholes in the top........New Tank, Rebuilt carb and Gas (Only) solved the problem. |
Very simply, they're trying to help a friend.
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26-09-2011, 05:53
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: North Carolina, USA
Boat: Big brick box and a '62 Airstream Ambassador. Formerly Pacific Seacraft
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Agreed. One bears the burden of insuring the advice they receive is good and using commonsense otherwise. On this forum, the answers can be seen my others and gets vetted. Pretty good system.
Chase
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26-09-2011, 06:01
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 51,332
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Re: Why do people, who have no experience
“It's not what you don't know that kills you; it's what you know for sure that just ain't true.”
- Mark Twain
In the first place, God made idiots. That was for practice.
Then he made forum posters.
- With apologies for mangling Mark Twain
Like the character Elwood P. Dowd, in “Harvey”; we all get just a little off centre, sometimes:
"I started to walk down the street ,when I heard a voice saying: 'Good evening, Mr. Dowd.' I turned, and there was this big white rabbit leaning against a lamp-post. Well, I thought nothing of that, because when you've lived in a town as long as I've lived in this one, you get used to the fact that everybody knows your name."
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"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
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26-09-2011, 06:05
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Wandering the US Gulf Coast
Boat: 78 Pearson323 Four Winds
Posts: 2,212
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Re: Why do people, who have no experience
Just to point out, the context of the OPs post is the professional environment, not a forum.
Just trying to be helpful.
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26-09-2011, 06:15
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Charleston SC
Boat: cal 40
Posts: 89
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Re: Why do people, who have no experience
Its the Dunning-Kruger effect. Dimwits think they know everything. Since the smart ones are surrounded, they think they are stupid also.
Then there is the Peter principle- in a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence
It's just human nature!
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26-09-2011, 06:29
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
Boat: 63 custom alloy sloop,macwester26,prout snowgoose 37 elite catamaran!
Posts: 10,594
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Re: Why do people, who have no experience
you pay peanuts,you get monkeys.........
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26-09-2011, 06:32
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Chambly, Québec, Canada
Boat: It will be an Island Packet 38 most probably
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Re: Why do people, who have no experience
Quote:
Originally Posted by atoll
you pay peanuts,you get monkeys.........
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Does that make you a monkey?
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Fair winds and following seas!!
Dominique
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