Who Thinks the Earth is Flat?

[Attikos]

You mean it's not?!? It sure looks it from the helm ...

[Dave_S]

Who's on the other side?

We should drill down and introduce ourselves.

[Liburnian]

Originally Posted by Delancey

I said "There's your next President" when Trump announced he was running for office. Friends and family laughed and said I was crazy.

So you voted for him to prove you're not crazy )

[GordMay]

FWIW:
There’s an article* in The New York Times suggesting that the more education Republicans have, the less they tend to believe in climate change, and, conversely, higher education corresponded with higher agreement among Democrats.
On most other issues, education had little effect.

* ➥ https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...93b6-176152845

[robert sailor]

Originally Posted by GordMay

FWIW:
There’s a report* in The New York Times showing that the more education Republicans have, the less they tend to believe in climate change, and, conversely, higher education corresponded with higher agreement among Democrats.
On most other issues, education had little effect.

* ➥ https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...93b6-176152845

Interesting article. My take on this article was Americans are unique in some ways in that they see global warming as a political issue and not a scientific issue so they differ their thoughts to mimic political leaders of their party , more so with Republicans.
In a way it's too bad that Americans are so emotional about politics because it's clear from this study that instead of being skeptical and insist on doing their own homework they simply line up with their team.

[Suijin]

Originally Posted by double u

"There is a direct connection between higher education and skepticism."
unfortunately not consistently true, just see how many doctors are doing homöopathy & acupuncture & TCM too...you'd think particularly they with years of medical trainig should know better...

Acupuncture works yo. Trust me.

As for Turner Classic Movies, I've seen the channel, it's real.

[Suijin]

And now for something completely different (yet strangely related) in the NYT:

Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program

[deblen]

Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat

If it's flat, why is it cold in the middle and at the edge?

And why isn't daytime the same everywhere?

It is cold in the middle because that is where Canada & Russia are.

It is cold at the edge because of the cold solar/space winds.

Things are moving faster as you move away from the center-hence daytime appears to change. But it is really just the "manyana effect" prevalent in tropical areas vs. the "move fast or freeze effect" in cold areas.

Len

[Delancey]

Originally Posted by robert sailor

In a way it's too bad that Americans are so emotional about politics because it's clear from this study that instead of being skeptical and insist on doing their own homework they simply line up with their team.

Um, you do realize the modern flat earth hypothesis originated in ENGLAND and that the International Flat Earth Society was founded in DOVER?

Faulting people of another nationality for being "so emotional" is a bit chauvinistic, no? I find the comment offensive. Politicizing science is not uniquely American.

Humans around the globe are guided by their emotions. Maybe members of the American Republican Party more so than others but painting an entire nation (especially one as diverse as the US) with a broad brush colored by the characteristics of a few is in and of itself more emotional and less rational.

"Lining up with their team" is something sheeple do all over the globe. The people of England have certainly proved they are no exception to this behavior throughout their history.

[kmacdonald]

Originally Posted by GordMay

FWIW:
There’s an article* in The New York Times suggesting that the more education Republicans have, the less they tend to believe in climate change, and, conversely, higher education corresponded with higher agreement among Democrats.
On most other issues, education had little effect.

* ➥ https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...93b6-176152845

What are trying to say? Just spit it out!!!!

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by robert sailor

Interesting article. My take on this article was Americans are unique in some ways in that they see global warming as a political issue and not a scientific issue so they differ their thoughts to mimic political leaders of their party , more so with Republicans.
In a way it's too bad that Americans are so emotional about politics because it's clear from this study that instead of being skeptical and insist on doing their own homework they simply line up with their team.

You’re exactly right Robert. There was a large international survey conducted by Pew in 2015. It was a wide ranging global survey attitudes from people all over the world. One of the KEY findings was that:

"Americans’ views about climate issues divide sharply along partisan lines.”

Similar political schisms were seen in most developed countries, but the USA was ‘exceptional' in this regard.

BTW Benz, almost everything you cite are facts that, while not easily confirmable by everyone, do rely on data that is open to analysis and investigation. It is not the same as simply relying on some untestable authority, or someone’s opinion. This is a false equivalence.

Depth soundings, evolution, the Big Bang, the age of the Earth, anthropogenic climate change, and the fact that the Earth is spherical, are all based on facts that are open to investigation. This is in contrast to statements which are untestable. This is why we differentiate between ideas based on fact vs those based on faith.

[30yearslater]

You are all wrong and are nothing more that a creation in my own mind. I am having this conversation imagining I am typing this on a keyboard that also doesn't exist other than my mental machinations possibly prompted by the divine or the evil deceiver. The earth simply doesn't exist beyond my mind nor does my body that inhabits it. All that I am is a thinking thing. So there! Cogito Ergo Sum Baby!

[Delancey]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

"Americans’ views about climate issues divide sharply along partisan lines.”

Look in the mirror mate.

Why Canadians' climate concerns don't always line up with the evidence - Calgary - CBC News

It's the same all over. It's human nature. Canadians are no different from the rest. Certainly not any less 'exceptional' than Americans. Maybe we should likewise judge ALL Canadians for the views of a few?

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by Delancey

Look in the mirror mate.

Why Canadians' climate concerns don't always line up with the evidence - Calgary - CBC News

Absolutely. Not suggesting in any way that Canadians aren’t on the naughty list when it comes to this situation. In fact, if you look at the Pew survey I referenced it clearly puts Canadian attitudes with the rest of the developed world, which tends to downplay the risks of climate change. One of the other key findings is that:

People in countries with high per-capita levels of carbon emissions are less intensely concerned about climate change.

Canada is one of the highest (if not the highest) per-capita users of energy. We’re just not as partisan about it (although more so than many other places).

[Sailmonkey]

Originally Posted by Delancey

Look in the mirror mate.

It's the same all over. It's human nature. Canadians are no different from the rest. Certainly not any less 'exceptional' than Americans. Maybe we should likewise judge ALL Canadians for the views of a few?

The difference is that Canadians, according to Southpark, don’t have traditional jaws. Therefore their speech is garbled.