View Poll Results: Do you ever sneak pump your holding tank overboard
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never
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34.29% |
only in "emergency" than filled it that wasn't planned
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9.14% |
only at night
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when out in the open, but maybe not outside the limit
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29.71% |
whenever I think it's OK because no one will notice
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9.71% |
reguarly pump it overboard
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29 |
16.57% |
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15-07-2010, 19:35
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#106
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: W Florida
Boat: Still have the 33yo Jon boat. But now a CATAMARAN. Nice little 18' Bay Cat.
Posts: 7,083
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Quote:
Originally Posted by osirissail
I like the one where the vast majority of Americans who were polled about "di-hydrogen oxide" thought it should be banned.
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Could you link me to that please.
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15-07-2010, 21:46
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#107
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: A real life Zombie from FL
Boat: Gulfstar 53 - Osiris
Posts: 5,416
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google it
Quote:
Originally Posted by Therapy
Could you link me to that please.
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There is the neat little feature on the internet called "Google" you can find out all sorts of stuff with it. - - Over a decade different students and others have had a lot of fun with the "banning water" by calling it by some of its chemical names. The purpose was to point out the gullible and un-informed nature of the public especially when it comes to science.
- - Just for you - - Dihydrogen monoxide hoax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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16-07-2010, 11:29
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#108
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Tampa Florida
Posts: 26
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Although I try hard to be eco friendly, the release of waste water (human waste) into the ocean is an inevitable fact of life. Mariness, you need to be a little more realistic with your rant. The chemicals in our poo are not as toxic as you claim no matter how much medicine I am taking or beer I am drinking or whatever. Our bodies do a damn good job of breaking down those kind of things to nominal levels. No matter how you feel about it, many of the stations where boat waste water tanks are pumped into are eventually taken by barge out past the line and dumped into the mighty oceans. Or piped directly out beyond the continental shelf. The oceans, by the way, are full of enzymes and naturally occurring bacteria that break the waste down much more efficiently than the human body can even do. I would wager everything I own to bet that the waste water from most pleasure boaters is nowhere near as toxic as the waste water being pumped to sea from our cities. City waste water IS full of chemicals of all sorts from those designed to unclog pipes to old out of date medicines to who knows what else, where boaters tend to be MUCH more careful about what goes into their waste water. So this type of crusade is nonsense and based on emotion rather than fact. Like too many "ECO" people you should aim your sights on more blatant threats to the eco systems, like deep water drilling, stripping the rain forests, factory dumping of chemicals into the oceans, rivers and lakes. But most importantly, be factual in your crusades. As far as pooping in the woods, come on, get a life. I tell you what, I promise not to poo in your yard, that is the best I can do.
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16-07-2010, 13:28
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#109
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 51,327
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Dihydrogen Monoxide or DHMO (“Dihydrogen” indicates two hydrogen atoms, or “H2” and “Monoxide” refers to a single oxygen atom, or “O”) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid.
Its basis is the highly reactive hydroxyl radical, a species shown to mutate DNA, denature proteins, disrupt cell membranes, and chemically alter critical neurotransmitters. The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol.
Symptoms of DHMO ingestion can include excessive sweating and urination, and possibly a bloated feeling, nausea, vomiting and body electrolyte imbalance.
For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death.
DMHO FAQs ➥ Facts About Dihydrogen Monoxide
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Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
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16-07-2010, 14:02
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#110
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lake Macquarie
Boat: Bluewater 420 CC
Posts: 756
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I'm one of the do-gooders who ticked "never", coz I don't have a holding tank.
Greg
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16-07-2010, 14:37
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#111
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Tampa Florida
Posts: 26
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GordMay, your theory is all wet.
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16-07-2010, 15:12
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#112
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,770
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eleebana
I'm one of the do-gooders who ticked "never", coz I don't have a holding tank.
Greg
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So really you always pump overboard?
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16-07-2010, 15:25
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#113
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 51,327
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flatspaddler
GordMay, your theory is all wet.
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Thanx for noticing.
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Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
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18-07-2010, 17:02
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#114
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,770
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You know maybe I don't understand the "3 mile" line. Today I left the port I stayed at for the night and noticed that I got to the 3 mile limit on the chart in, well 3 miles. But the line then just went across the bay for 20 miles. I measured the distance and near as I can tell the middle point was 12 miles from any land (and I know the area so don't tell me there is some little rock island somewhere on the way.
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18-07-2010, 17:51
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#115
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,959
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Lucas
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Yup, the tank is clean enough to eat out of. But "always" is the wrong word. Not in marinas or where people are swimming, etc.
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18-07-2010, 19:03
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#116
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: So Florida
Boat: Beneteau 461, Blue
Posts: 3
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BLACKWATER! Does anyone know how this commodity being currently handled by the Cruisers in Georgetown, Bahamas? Is the Honeyboat still in operation?
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18-07-2010, 19:22
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#117
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: At the intersection of here & there
Boat: 47' Olympic Adventure
Posts: 4,892
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Lucas
You know maybe I don't understand the "3 mile" line. Today I left the port I stayed at for the night and noticed that I got to the 3 mile limit on the chart in, well 3 miles. But the line then just went across the bay for 20 miles. I measured the distance and near as I can tell the middle point was 12 miles from any land (and I know the area so don't tell me there is some little rock island somewhere on the way.
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Your charts have a line at 3 miles?
Most would have the territorial boundary at 12 miles; bays are often enclosed - UNCLOS has rules for how that's done.
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18-07-2010, 20:13
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#118
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Oro Bay Puget Sound
Boat: Irwin sloop
Posts: 407
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I'm told that before civilized humans came on the scene the fish and marine mammal population in our oceans was twelve times greater than it is now. And with all the buffalo roaming, and the deer and antelope playing, the amount of manure produced and left untreated to runoff into the streams and rivers the oceans must have resembled Poo poo soup compared to what they are now.
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19-07-2010, 04:36
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#119
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,770
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lodesman
Your charts have a line at 3 miles?
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Yes my charts have it already on them. And my GPS also shows it on the screen.
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19-07-2010, 15:06
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#120
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North Charleston, SC
Boat: Camano Troll
Posts: 5,176
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Lucas
You know maybe I don't understand the "3 mile" line. Today I left the port I stayed at for the night and noticed that I got to the 3 mile limit on the chart in, well 3 miles. But the line then just went across the bay for 20 miles. I measured the distance and near as I can tell the middle point was 12 miles from any land (and I know the area so don't tell me there is some little rock island somewhere on the way.
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If you think you're three miles out and you can't see any other boats, you're three miles out.
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HIGH COTTON
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