Jerry cans are unusable

[landsend]

As stated previously use the shaker with tube. For best results exchange original tube with a better more rigid,longer tube. Original tube seems to collapse.Zero spill guarantee unless you are a ......

[valhalla360]

Originally Posted by boatman61

When syphoning fuel from a Jerry can Never suck on the tube to get it started.
Sit the Jerry can level on the deck, remove the cap and get a length of 1/2 to 3/4 inch tube long enough for one end to reach the bottom of the can and around 12 inches below deck level down the filler hole.
Then get a wad of kitchen roll/rag and bunch it so it it seals the spout of the can.. peel back enough to create a small hole, place your mouth over the hole and blow hard.. this will raise the pressure inside the can and start the fuel flowing.
To get it all out tilt the can as it gets near empty so it drains all the dregs.
If the fuel does not start flowing it means your seal is not good enough, repack and try again.
Cleanest way to transfer fuel even in a seaway.

Much easier to just use a dedicated syphon:

https://www.amazon.com/Liquid-Fuel-T...dDbGljaz10cnVl

We have a 20yr old version of this one that has never given a problem. No batteries or any other complications.

PS: Yeah, the EPA valves are a joke and if it was cheap and easy to build one that functions well, they would quickly dominate the market.

[Joe28532]

Get a self starting syphon. Sounds like it could be a real life changer for you.

[Captain Bill]

No one suggesting the use of the jiggle siphon or even the power siphon would ever disable the government mandated flame arrestor so that they could actually use them. Just to make sure no one is actually confessing here. Also I'm also sure everyone suggesting the No-spill cans is suggesting that they actually store the cans as sold on a boat, which is illegal. For that matter it is illegal to store any can on a boat that has a permanently protruding spout. No-spill will however sell you a legal cap for storing fuel on a boat at extra cost.

[rslifkin]

Originally Posted by Captain Bill

Also I'm also sure everyone suggesting the No-spill cans is suggesting that they actually store the cans as sold on a boat, which is illegal. For that matter it is illegal to store any can on a boat that has a permanently protruding spout. No-spill will however sell you a legal cap for storing fuel on a boat at extra cost.

A protruding spout being illegal is news to me. That said, any time I transport one of those No-spill cans in a car for filling or anything, I always turn the spout backwards over the top of the can so it's not sticking out.

[skipmac]

Have not tried the other brands but love these from VP racing. Officially for off road and racing use only. Also available in red, yellow, blue and white so can get the right color for the fuel.

Even with these no spill jugs I would use the pump posted by Jedi.

https://www.amazon.com/VP-Racing-Fue...e%2C125&sr=1-7

[Captain Bill]

Originally Posted by rslifkin

A protruding spout being illegal is news to me. That said, any time I transport one of those No-spill cans in a car for filling or anything, I always turn the spout backwards over the top of the can so it's not sticking out.

This is a USDOT rule and also applies to transportation of the these types of cans in cars and trucks as well as boats. Here's a link to the no-spill legal cap for those interested. Note that this is available from other vendors and I am in no way suggesting this vendor. Just providing an example.


https://www.amazon.com/No-Spill-6160...pb_opt?ie=UTF8

[GreenWave]

Originally Posted by wingssail

I suggest you take some time out from your anti-EPA ranting and find a way to transfer fuel from a jug to your tank. Solve the problem, your ranting won't solve anything.

When you need that emergency fuel you won't be sitting dockside, you'll be out in the ocean somewhere in wind and maybe waves, and you'll be wishing that you can get some fuel into your engine to get going, so you'd best have figured out how to do that.

In my case I have two tanks and I can switch, but mostly I sail my way out of trouble.

You two need to get a room.


We are allowed to rant. It is a forum. Nothing wrong with that. PLus he started a nice thread full of useful solutions, including Jedi's very cool transfer pump.

[Cheechako]

Conventional replacement spouts are readily available. A package of 3 or 4 for about $20
No it's not just a "WalMart cheap spout" issue. Even a can bought from NAPA autoparts etc is bad.

[GreenWave]

Originally Posted by Captain Bill

This is a USDOT rule and also applies to transportation of the these types of cans in cars and trucks as well as boats. Here's a link to the no-spill legal cap for those interested. Note that this is available from other vendors and I am in no way suggesting this vendor. Just providing an example.


https://www.amazon.com/No-Spill-6160...pb_opt?ie=UTF8

Does thus rule apply to personal watercraft?

[rslifkin]

Originally Posted by Captain Bill

This is a USDOT rule and also applies to transportation of the these types of cans in cars and trucks as well as boats. Here's a link to the no-spill legal cap for those interested. Note that this is available from other vendors and I am in no way suggesting this vendor. Just providing an example.


https://www.amazon.com/No-Spill-6160...pb_opt?ie=UTF8

Interesting. No-spill does mention that only their 5 gallon can with the special cap is actually DOT approved.



I'm having trouble finding the actual DOT rules for this though. Do you happen to have a link?

[Joe28532]

[QUOTE=Captain Bill;3582227]No one suggesting the use of the jiggle siphon or even the power siphon would ever disable the government mandated flame arrestor so that they could actually use them. Just to make sure no one is actually confessing here. Also I'm also sure everyone suggesting the No-spill cans is suggesting that they actually store the cans as sold on a boat, which is illegal. For that matter it is illegal to store any can on a boat that has a permanently protruding spout. No-spill will however sell you a legal cap for storing fuel on a boat at extra cost.[/QUOTE

I'm not advocating carying a can with a protruding spout (more so because I wouldn't want water in my fuel) but where can I read this law you speak of? I've never heard such a thing. Also the flame arrestor is to prevent flames from entering the containor when pouring the fuel. If you're using a syphon the condition it is designed to prevent doesn't exist.

[CaptTom]

The replacement spouts with add-on air vents from Amazon are great. I've retro-fitted all my portable tanks with them.

I tried the "racing" style hose spout, and didn't see much improvement. That might have been because I didn't spring for the whole racing-style tank. I've already got a dozen 5- and 6-gallon tanks.

My favorite is the one which has two spouts which screw together to make a longer one, similar to this one at Amazon. The longer spout allows me to get the end of it in the deck fill before the fuel starts flowing, avoiding spills entirely.

BTW, I bought the last four last 6-gallon portable tanks I saw for sale back in 2015, in Massachusetts of all places. They'd already been outlawed in the surrounding states by that time. Apparently everywhere now. I always wondered why our benevolent leaders don't trust us with that extra gallon.

[rslifkin]

Originally Posted by CaptTom

BTW, I bought the last four last 6-gallon portable tanks I saw for sale back in 2015, in Massachusetts of all places. They'd already been outlawed in the surrounding states by that time. Apparently everywhere now. I always wondered why our benevolent leaders don't trust us with that extra gallon.

I don't think there's anything banning 6 gallon containers. The manufacturers have just standardized on 10 and 20 liters (commonly called 2.5 and 5 gallons, but it's really more like 2.7 and 5.3 gallons).

[Captain Bill]

Ok, I've been busy since my last post and the regulations 49 CFR 173. The reason that you can't buy 6 gallon jerry cans anymore is that the regulations for portable fuel larger than 5 gallons are much more stringent than 5 gallons and below.