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02-06-2019, 09:36
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Texas
Boat: Baba 35
Posts: 389
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I broke a thru hull fitting off in the marina
I was connecting the diesel fill hose to the deck fill nipple and it felt stuck so I gave it a tug and it came loose. Problem solved! Time for a beer.
Except the diesel hose was under the 3/4" thru hull for the watermaker intake. Broke it clean off and water was pouring into my boat.
I dashed for the bag of wooden bungs i found on the boat and they are massive. Useless.
I ended up shoving a wad of butyl tape in the hole with an Bic click pen behind it. Still there as I try to unfudge this situation.
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02-06-2019, 09:58
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Crete , Greece
Boat: Beneteau first 26
Posts: 670
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Re: I broke a thru hull fitting off in the marina
Haul out replace through Hull
Dry out with the tide replace though hull
Replace through hull in the water ( live with slow leaks )
That's all I can think
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02-06-2019, 10:00
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Hull Diver
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Under a boat, in a marina, in the San Francisco Bay
Posts: 5,478
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Re: I broke a thru hull fitting off in the marina
There are divers that will replace a thru-hull in the water. I admin a Facebook group with over 1600 hull cleaners as members. DM me your contact info, if you'd like me to post a "help wanted" ad for you there.
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02-06-2019, 14:21
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: St. Petersburg, Florida
Boat: Gemini 3200
Posts: 983
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Re: I broke a thru hull fitting off in the marina
How close to the waterline is the through hull? I once replaced a friend's through hull by heeling the boat until the fitting came out of the water. We had to leave it that way long enough to go buy a new fitting.
If you replace a fitting under water make a rubber gasket--Home Depot and Lowes sell sheets of gasket material--so you won't have to deal with applying sealant under water. There are underwater sealants but they are very tricky to use--never worked for me.
Fabbian
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02-06-2019, 15:13
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 21,467
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Re: I broke a thru hull fitting off in the marina
Your experience underlines the need for through hull bungs to be lashed to their respective through hulls, AFTER checking to see if they fit. Keeping them in a bag "down there somewhere" is poor practice! But you know that now, don't you!
Good luck with the replacement.
Jim
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02-06-2019, 16:14
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Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, in Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
Posts: 29,763
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Re: I broke a thru hull fitting off in the marina
If there are any drying grids in your area, you could dry out on one. You could check. Otherwise, haul out is probably simplest. Most marinas will let you lie in the slings if their hardstand is full, to allow your boat not to sink.
Good on your Macguyvered patch, but do not expect it to work for long. It stopped the water, and that is good, but I would not count on it to last very long.
Ann
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02-06-2019, 16:36
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 31,348
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I broke a thru hull fitting off in the marina
I already had the thru hull installed but needed to pull the elbow that I had on it for temp when I was in the Bahamas, went under the boat and placed a thick piece of foam mat, like a good Yoga mat. I was suspicious at first, but pulled the elbow off and installed Groco’s adapter, three way valve etc and the whole time it never leaked a drop.
So I thought well I’ll just fill the head with water and the macerator pump will blow that foam mat off, cause it pumps water fast. I did that three of four times and the foam never moved, had to dive to remove it.
Got me thinking that maybe to go with my soft wood plugs and a couple of Nerf footballs, a yoga mat if the hole is underneath might just be a pretty darn good plug.
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03-06-2019, 10:42
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Texas
Boat: Baba 35
Posts: 389
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Re: I broke a thru hull fitting off in the marina
Pen is in there pretty good. We decided to leave it and we will haul it out in a few days to fix it.
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03-06-2019, 13:10
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
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I broke a thru hull fitting off in the marina
You know while I can’t be sure, it looks as if there may be plumbing brass parts there, if so, be sure to not use brass, only bronze.
There is a form of brass that I believe is actually bronze, it may be called naval brass, but it’s also called by its metals make up, forget exactly what it’s called, but it has a bunch of fives in the name
Just plumbing brass won’t last long I’m salt water, it breaks
You may also want to look into a real seacock and not a ball valve on a thru hull, especially that small as that’s surely fragile.
Plus I believe there is no backing plate, just a hole in the hull?
Maine sail I’m sure has a write up on how to install a thru hull / seacock, I’ll look
Read this before you haul, and gather parts before you haul too of course
https://marinehowto.com/replacing-th...-and-seacocks/
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03-06-2019, 13:29
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Yankeetown, FL(boat)Inglis(home)
Boat: Pearson P39Hull#72
Posts: 224
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Re: I broke a thru hull fitting off in the marina
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Cate
Your experience underlines the need for through hull bungs to be lashed to their respective through hulls, AFTER checking to see if they fit. Keeping them in a bag "down there somewhere" is poor practice! But you know that now, don't you!
Good luck with the replacement.
Jim
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Well said. Drilled holes, put screw eyes in fat end & Tied them to all the thru-hulls w/poly twine. Not worried abt. screw eyes when getting smacked by mallet/hammer/ANYTHING Heavy that can be grabbed in 'crisis mode'. Hopefully 'find-able' when it's gushing in. Talk is cheap, but the OP really does need to either seek out a beach-able location where repair can get done at low tide, or opt for haul out. Guessing pickup for a WM is going to be far below waterline & nearby engine FW pickup?
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03-06-2019, 13:33
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: SoCal
Boat: Formosa 30 ketch
Posts: 1,018
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Re: I broke a thru hull fitting off in the marina
I've wondered why through-hulls are made of what appears to be sched 40 pipe. As important as they are, why not 0.250" wall thickness and nuts as beefy as bridge washers?
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03-06-2019, 13:39
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Yankeetown, FL(boat)Inglis(home)
Boat: Pearson P39Hull#72
Posts: 224
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Re: I broke a thru hull fitting off in the marina
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Seal
I've wondered why through-hulls are made of what appears to be sched 40 pipe. As important as they are, why not 0.250" wall thickness and nuts as beefy as bridge washers?
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Old School & multiple Old Boat Owner...all of ours are BRONZE, w/valve attached immediately behind & before those double clamped hoses.
Regarding the 'new school' vein, recently purchased 14 sticks of 6" schedule 40....used them (like the Egyptians) to move a 40' shipping container filled to abt. 45-48k lbs.? The Stuff IS Strong;
Just sayin'?
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03-06-2019, 14:08
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Texas
Boat: Baba 35
Posts: 389
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Re: I broke a thru hull fitting off in the marina
Quote:
Originally Posted by a64pilot
You know while I can’t be sure, it looks as if there may be plumbing brass parts there, if so, be sure to not use brass, only bronze.
There is a form of brass that I believe is actually bronze, it may be called naval brass, but it’s also called by its metals make up, forget exactly what it’s called, but it has a bunch of fives in the name
Just plumbing brass won’t last long I’m salt water, it breaks
You may also want to look into a real seacock and not a ball valve on a thru hull, especially that small as that’s surely fragile.
Plus I believe there is no backing plate, just a hole in the hull?
Maine sail I’m sure has a write up on how to install a thru hull / seacock, I’ll look
Read this before you haul, and gather parts before you haul too of course
https://marinehowto.com/replacing-th...-and-seacocks/
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I recently bought the boat a couple of months ago. The only thing I installed in this picture is the pen!
I will be doing a lot of research and I will do it right. I assure you.
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03-06-2019, 14:11
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Texas
Boat: Baba 35
Posts: 389
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Re: I broke a thru hull fitting off in the marina
Quote:
Originally Posted by captmick39
Guessing pickup for a WM is going to be far below waterline & nearby engine FW pickup?
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Yes, it is near the bottom of the hull.
I had to crawl through the rotted out hole I talk about in my other thread to get to it.
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