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07-03-2015, 10:59
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#106
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,775
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Re: How Do You Let Go?
6 pages of posts, has Julie gotten the boat?
Question answered.
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Don't ask a bunch of unknown forum people if it is OK to do something on YOUR boat. It is your boat, do what you want!
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07-03-2015, 11:10
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#107
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: the Med
Boat: Nauta 54' by Scott Kaufman/S&S - 1989
Posts: 1,180
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Re: How Do You Let Go?
2 stu jackson
Drama starts on the 12th year, as to engine, elts, rigging...
Yours were way all too young boats
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07-03-2015, 11:52
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#108
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 184
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Re: How Do You Let Go?
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Originally Posted by Julie Mor
Oh we have. Twice. Been through her like a mole on a golf course.
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What's the real problem here?
Well, for one thing -- and this is fun, so no bad props -- we on this forum have NO idea what the boat is. We don't know how you sail, where you wanna go, racing?, or whatever.
What's the real question here?
You want us to tell you whether it's worth it to buy a boat you love with your BFF and live-aboard on the boat of your dreams, which I repeat we don't know what the F!@#k boat that is; or continue on land in frustration thinking the chance of a lifetime passed you by.
Duh: You're on a sailing forum baby, we ain't gonna recommend you throw it all over a raise cattle. You work a shipyard and know what maintenance is.
Unanswered questions: What is this boat? Does it float? Is it safe? If it's not wood, you're without me. But that leaves you with others that have those same three questions.
Notice, no one's questioned why you're secretive about the where and what is this boat? Not interested in the where, or the how much, but what boat are we talking about?
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07-03-2015, 12:00
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#109
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 401
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Re: How Do You Let Go?
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Originally Posted by Stu Jackson
There's not enough info in Julie's posts to tell whether this boat she has her eyes on is a one-off or if there are many more of that same model and size out there.
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No. And there will never be, not in this thread. This is not about buying a boat or determining if the boat is the right one or one to run away from. It's about the internal battle that goes on in most of us when faced with something we WANT, though it may not be what we need. So we go through the mental machinations where the emotional side of us works hard to convince the logical side of us we both NEED this.
My question to those reading this thread, when you were faced with the two sides battling it out, how did that go?
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07-03-2015, 12:06
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#110
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 31,087
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Re: How Do You Let Go?
A boat is like a woman.. weigh up whats on offer.. whats the cost.. then take her on.. or.. just walk away..
Simple as opening your hand..
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07-03-2015, 12:09
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#111
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,775
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Re: How Do You Let Go?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Julie Mor
My question to those reading this thread, when you were faced with the two sides battling it out, how did that go?
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I already told you. I went and looked at boats that my logical side said I should, and out of those I got the one my heart said to.
The flip side is that if you looked at a boat that your logical side didn't like, it means you are insane.
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Don't ask a bunch of unknown forum people if it is OK to do something on YOUR boat. It is your boat, do what you want!
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07-03-2015, 12:17
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#112
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: the Med
Boat: Nauta 54' by Scott Kaufman/S&S - 1989
Posts: 1,180
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Re: How Do You Let Go?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailorboy1
6 pages of posts, has Julie gotten the boat?
Question answered.
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boat? Which one??
here, she speaks about tossing stones in the pond,
and about boxing.
Logi
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07-03-2015, 12:22
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#113
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 401
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Re: How Do You Let Go?
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheThunderbird
boat? Which one??
here, she speaks about tossing stones in the pond,
and about boxing.
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I threw some sword fighting in there too.
But no badges. We don't need no stinking badges.
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“Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats.”
― Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows
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07-03-2015, 12:24
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#114
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: the Med
Boat: Nauta 54' by Scott Kaufman/S&S - 1989
Posts: 1,180
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Re: How Do You Let Go?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailorboy1
6 pages of posts, has Julie gotten the boat?
Question answered.
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boat? Which one??
here, she speaks about tossing stones in the pond,
and about boxing.
:-)
logic+emotions must combine and work together. No other way.
logic can be found in emotions, to justify them.
hardly the contrary.
any non-emotional boat wuold be sold in 2years
Any illogic boat would be sold a few years later, imo.
yet, a SOLO-LOGIC boat will be relinquished soon and earlier, since live aboard is enough of a pain per se
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07-03-2015, 12:44
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#115
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Florida
Posts: 130
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Re: How Do You Let Go?
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheThunderbird
boat? Which one??
here, she speaks about tossing stones in the pond,
and about boxing.
:-)
logic+emotions must combine and work together. No other way.
logic can be found in emotions, to justify them.
hardly the contrary.
any non-emotional boat wuold be sold in 2years
Any illogic boat would be sold a few years later, imo.
yet, a SOLO-LOGIC boat will be relinquished soon and earlier, since live aboard is enough of a pain per se
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Good point. A simple, priced right "logical" boat would have been sold by now.
I think she may be weighing the financial cost questions like:
.."is this the best use of my fun money? Can I get as much enjoyment with another, lesser cost boat?"
She may also be looking at the illogical decision of selling other assets in order buy a boat, which will require work and more money.
Perhaps she is struggling with trading in the easy, land lubbing life for a more adventuresome, difficult life for a few years.
IJS
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07-03-2015, 13:00
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#116
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 5,985
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Re: How Do You Let Go?
If emotion and logic are trading blows in the ring of your mind there is something wrong with your mind. The only logic in this excersize is the amount of money contemplated to be put into a giant hole in the ocean. Owning and maintaining a boat are purely emotional decisions when you purchase it for personal use. Start the fight in your mind with this base and you'll soon find that the emotional fighter always has one hand tied behind his back but has been known to have KO'd many logical buyers, most of them reside on this forum.
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07-03-2015, 13:11
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#117
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 401
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Re: How Do You Let Go?
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Originally Posted by robert sailor
If emotion and logic are trading blows in the ring of your mind there is something wrong with your mind.
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This sounds frighteningly like you are assuming sanity has anything to do with this!
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07-03-2015, 13:28
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#118
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 848
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Re: How Do You Let Go?
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Originally Posted by PortClydeMe
I know what your saying! I've been searching high and low for a derelict beat-up Hinckley that someone is dying to unload for $35K. Ain't having much luck, but will keep searching.
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Well, here you go...
Looks like the brightwork might need a bit of touching up...
However, it appears that cockpit coaming has already been taped off for you...
:-)
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07-03-2015, 14:42
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#119
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2009
Location: holland michigan
Boat: Gulfstar 50 ketch
Posts: 483
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Re: How Do You Let Go?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Julie Mor
No. And there will never be, not in this thread. This is not about buying a boat or determining if the boat is the right one or one to run away from. It's about the internal battle that goes on in most of us when faced with something we WANT, though it may not be what we need. So we go through the mental machinations where the emotional side of us works hard to convince the logical side of us we both NEED this.
My question to those reading this thread, when you were faced with the two sides battling it out, how did that go?
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How did it go... not fun. Drove my wife and brokers nuts making lowball offers. Then freaking when they accepted (what did I miss). Went through this on 5 boats I think.
Three boats were accepted offers. One I loved but saw it for the money pit it was and could not afford if I missed something. Tried to squeeze a few more grand out of the seller but they had a higher backup offer.
The second was the boat most will tell you to buy. New engine, wiring, rigging, sails all done by a respected yard but I wasn't in "love". Canceled offer, don't remember what excuse I used and they don't really seem to care. Boat three cheapest of them all, wasn't in love but wife liked and I thought it was "OK". It was listed wrong (motor sailor),and priced low compaired to sister ships. It was stuck on a river two days away from the nearest place that could lift it. Made a crazy offer and it was accepted. I figured at this price I could get out of it easy if I hated it. Turned out we love it. If you want this boat and the risk to you is acceptable throw them a crazy offer. Oh and I mean CRAZY low.
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07-03-2015, 15:33
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#120
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 897
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Re: How Do You Let Go?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Eisberg
Well, here you go...
Looks like the brightwork might need a bit of touching up...
However, it appears that cockpit coaming has already been taped off for you...
:-)
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In 5 states, that level of neglect on a Hinckley can bring a 12-year prison term. In Maine, especially anywhere near Southwest Harbor, it's a capital offense.
By the way, did the OP buy the boat, or was this simply a writing exercise for the freshman English class at the local community college?
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