How do you deal with a bad captain?

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Wrong

Boy oh boy.

There really are good reasons to sail alone.

Hey.. it cuts down the knock backs I have to send out by 90%..
The rest know enough to read between the lines..
Madness in Method in Madness

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by NoQuarter79

I have been told my lack of details is an issue, and I am working on it. I tried for at least ten minutes to eat the noodles without a utensil. I went in the cabin essentially to ask for permission to use a fork. We never asked him to do anything for us.
LOL.. some might call that blatant sarcasm.. "Pass a fork up please mate.. these are hot.." kinda sounds better than.. "Please Sir.. am I allowed to use a Fork"... sorry.. not trying to be flip.. honest.. but you'll laugh about it in a few years.
We honestly just tried to put up with it. We wanted to finish the trip. To complete a trip from Florida to New York would have been a great achievement for us as beginners. We had to plan accordingly, and try to find a way to get back home after we jumped. We chose Beaufort, because we had friends in the area that were willing to help us out. If it hadn't been that, then we would have got off in the Bay where our boat is, but we couldn't tolerate it anymore. Sometimes now I wish we would have put up with him, and finished the trip. But we do have dignity, and we'd like to maintain that as well.

Believe it or not he likely felt he was putting himself out as well.. lotsa things guys do on their own that they tamp down on sailing in company..

[Stu Jackson]

Originally Posted by NoQuarter79

I have been told my lack of details is an issue, and I am working on it. I tried for at least ten minutes to eat the noodles without a utensil. I went in the cabin essentially to ask for permission to use a fork. We never asked him to do anything for us. ......................................
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But we do have dignity, and we'd like to maintain that as well.

This is another highly edited quotes of your last post.

Again, you might want to reread this, as boaty says, in a month or two.

You'd sailed for a long time on this boat and you had to ask if you could use a fork?!?

If I was on that boat, I'd be saying to myself: "Hmm, dunna think she could know where the forks are by now and just get one? Why is she asking if she can use a fork? Doesn't she know hot soup needs a utensil?"

Think about it.

Of course, he could just have well as said: "Ooops, sorry, I forgot to give you one. Here, have two."

Dignity? Hardly.

[Wrong]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Hey.. it cuts down the knock backs I have to send out by 90%..
The rest know enough to read between the lines..
Madness in Method in Madness

It's really, really hard to resist hijacking this thread into a let me tell you about the two British women who sailed with me at different times and why I'll never bring a Brit on board again saga.

Or, the young American who said he could cook then offered up peanut butter & jelly sandwiches...

Or,...

[NoQuarter79]

Well you can't generalize every British person because 2 out of the 64 million Brits were not good crew.

I shouldn't have had to ask permission to use a fork. We should have disobeyed captains orders and moved out of the way of the ship. But I thought a good crew did NOT disobey and go against captains orders.

It's ridiculous that I have to go this in depth over noodles, but he expected us to not use a fork. He was upset with us that we couldn't eat without using the fork. On a moving boat, trying to eat something like that will likely end up in a hot mess, literally.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Wrong

It's really, really hard to resist hijacking this thread into a let me tell you about the two British women who sailed with me at different times and why I'll never bring a Brit on board again saga.

Is that both sexes... or just the 'Brit Women..'

[Stu Jackson]

Originally Posted by NoQuarter79

1 I shouldn't have had to ask permission to use a fork.

2 We should have disobeyed captains orders and moved out of the way of the ship. But I thought a good crew did NOT disobey and go against captains orders.

1 I'm still wondering: Why did you? Did you read my last post?

2 NO, what everyone has said is you should have discussed it, and I explained what to do if that didn't work.

[NoQuarter79]

Originally Posted by Stu Jackson

1 I'm still wondering: Why did you? Did you read my last post?

2 NO, what everyone has said is you should have discussed it, and I explained what to do if that didn't work.

As I have mentioned previously, he scared us. I asked for permission because I was going to get yelled at about it either way. He would have been mad if we told him to do something instead of us doing it. All we were trying to do was comply respectfully.

We had never been crew before, so we didn't know we could question the captain. I'm pretty sure he yelled that we're not to question him at one point.

[darylat8750]

NoQuarter79 .... What marine business do you have?

[NoQuarter79]

Originally Posted by darylat8750

NoQuarter79 .... What marine business do you have?

We were cleaning hulls. We have been on a hiatus because we haven't been able to make it back to our boat due to finances. We are still fighting that battle, and it's starting to look like we're going to lose our boat and our business, but that's a different story.

[Wrong]

Originally Posted by NoQuarter79

Well you can't generalize every British person because 2 out of the 64 million Brits were not good crew.

Well. Maybe we're getting somewhere now. Are you a Brit?

[NoQuarter79]

Originally Posted by Wrong

Well. Maybe we're getting somewhere now. Are you a Brit?

I'm not. I'm just against stereotyping.

[Wrong]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Is that both sexes... or just the 'Brit Women..'

I only do women... Only female crew. No room for the excess testerone on my boat. Only one boss. No responsibilities I'll share and most women are content to have the experience and adventure without "assignements". Not so with males.

[monte]

When we were taught scuba the memory technique to remember BCD, Weights,Air,Final check was 'British women are fat' (BWAF) yes off topic, sorry if I offended any fat Brits

[NoQuarter79]

Originally Posted by Wrong

I only do women... Only female crew. No room for the excess testerone on my boat. Only one boss. No responsibilities I'll share and most women are content to have the experience and adventure without "assignements". Not so with males.

There's more stereotyping. Not every woman is going to obey your every command like a genie, not every man is going to try to take control of your boat and the situation.