Hitting an anchored boat in a sparsely populated anchorage while under sail

[Chotu]

Originally Posted by smj

Can you drill a hole in them and attach them to the boat with some line so they won’t get lost if they fall out?
Saw that on a Shuttleworth once.

Possibly. There is currently nowhere to tie them to however. So, I will go with a tight fit this time.

Like 1/8 inch too long. Tap them in with a hammer. They will stay.

[rslifkin]

If there's room, make them long enough to stick out a bit on each side and drill them for a cotter pin or similar. Then they can't slide out without being broken first.

[Lodesman]

Originally Posted by Cynara

If you knew me you wouldn't make the comments about me, but that is okay.

The post implied he was sailing fast.

No matter the sailboat was in the wrong

I assume this is a response to me. No, I don't know you; I can only go by what you write here, and when you are derisive of Colregs, as well as anyone who posts reference material, then I can only assume that you are like oh so many who are "too cool for school and don't need no stinkin' colregs." You could have answered any of the questions I posed, but if you prefer to remain enigmatic, then we'll only be left with initial impressions.

We got that it was a 38ish foot boat, genny flapping, apparently practicing how to sail - if you think that implies fast, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Clearly the sailboat was in the wrong - that's kind of an indisputable "well d'uh!" The fun in Colregs discussions, comes in dissecting them and arguing the minutiae

[jipcho]

Wow, unbelievable carelessness. I hope they are caught and face serious consequences. Those people have no business being aboard a sailboat, much less sailing one.

[Lucky Luke 1]

Use your radio or phone and alert the local marine authority or police.

[the stargazer]

So how does everyone feel about AIS at anchor?

[sailorboy1]

Originally Posted by the stargazer

So how does everyone feel about AIS at anchor?

seems a waste of time to me to be looking at a cluttered screen instead of watching where you are going

[Chotu]

Originally Posted by sailorboy1

seems a waste of time to me to be looking at a cluttered screen instead of watching where you are going

Agreed.

Also, the sunken wrecks and immovable boats in the anchorages are probably are not transmitting AIS.

[smj]

Originally Posted by Chotu

Agreed.



Also, the sunken wrecks and immovable boats in the anchorages are probably are not transmitting AIS.

Agree with both previous posts. And if one insists on using a screen while anchoring maybe radar would be more reliable.

[Chotu]

Originally Posted by smj

Agree with both previous posts. And if one insists on using a screen while anchoring maybe radar would be more reliable.

Or a forward facing video camera.

“I think I found us a spot to anchor, captain!”

[smj]

Originally Posted by Chotu

Or a forward facing video camera.

“I think I found us a spot to anchor, captain!”

Absolutely, but masthead mounted for better visibility and ease of maintenance.........

[rslifkin]

AIS at anchor has a couple of limited use cases in my mind. One is to give the names of other transmitting boats in the anchorage if you want/need to talk to them and can't read the boat names easily (such as heavy wind/rain, or their dinghy is blocking the name).

The other is a convenience when you're approaching the anchorage. AIS can't tell you for sure what's in there, but if you know a given anchorage only holds 8 - 10 boats reasonably and you see 9 AIS targets already in there as you approach (and land is blocking your ability to see in with radar), you've got a pretty good idea that the anchorage is most likely full. No reason to head 15 minutes in and 15 minutes back out at that point, you'd just head for your next best choice and arrive 30 minutes earlier. Or you could even call one of the boats in the anchorage and ask how much space is available (as you now know some of their names). Of course, it can't tell you that there is definitely space for you, as you don't know what's there but not transmitting until you go in and look. For this use case, it would be when you're still a mile or 2 out. Once you've decided to go in and look, your eyes (and radar in some cases) will be more useful than AIS, so the AIS info will just be ignored.

The big point in my mind is that there isn't really a downside to transmitting at anchor if your power budget supports it. Anyone who isn't interested in anchored targets can just filter out the non-moving targets from their AIS display (the majority of setups support doing this). But the information is still available for anyone who may find it helpful.

[pjShap]

I agree with the value explained by rslifkin for transmitting AIS at anchor. Never at a dock.

Originally Posted by rslifkin

Anyone who isn't interested in anchored targets can just filter out the non-moving targets from their AIS display (the majority of setups support doing this).

I've never been able to find that setting in my Garmin chart plotter. Does anyone know where it might be?

[TrentePieds]

What causes otherwise sensible people to wish to use such information limiting technology as AIS for a job for which nature has equipped them with highly sophisticated and reliable means of handling that information?

Remember that at 5 knots, which we may take as "hull speed" for a 30Ft sailboat, the boat moves a boat length in four seconds.

You simply don't have time to mess with electronic devices if you are in confined waters, or waters where obstructions may be expected. Doing so impedes your ability to comply with COLREG #5. And if you are under sail, that compliance is already compromised!

TrentePieds

[the stargazer]

I was just kidding - making a joke about the 20 pages of off-topic AIS posts.