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28-06-2013, 19:37
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
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Re: Have you Fired an Converted Flare Gun?
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Originally Posted by sww914
Noonsite has the most comprehensive information that I'm aware of. Certainly not allowed in Mexico and several Caribbean countries. I went to Mexico first, we have no guns aboard and we haven't needed any.
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when i depart for vietnam, and south sea, i want one. or some type of protection. i had been looking for commercial flare guns, with large rounds.
not to convert, but if your shot with something flaming and hot.... you will most likely bugger off.
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28-06-2013, 19:44
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Resin Head
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle WA
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Re: Have you Fired an Converted Flare Gun?
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Originally Posted by sww914
If toy plastic that's weaker than Lego plastic was good enough to make pistols, I'm sure that some gun manufacturer would be doing it.
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3D PRINTED GUN is Now a REALITY as the World's First FULLY FUNCTIONAL 3D Printed Gun is Made - YouTube
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28-06-2013, 21:02
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Re: Have you Fired an Converted Flare Gun?
Flare gun, right, if you don't scare the bad man off, he's just gonna be pissed while you try reloading. Guns and borders are a problem, even here in the US there are many places where an old shotgun is still going to be illegal without a license for it.
3D printed gun...sure, the sky has fallen, but what they neglect to say is that it is a throw-away piece. When the actual important part of the gun, the receiver or chamber, is made on a 3d printer, the odds are it will fail either on the first try or sometime soon after, as confirmed by a number of the folks who have made and tested them. Not to worry, there's always the other hand, right?
And frankly, a saturday night special is going to be cheaper and more reliable. The technology certainly has potential, and uses, but if that plastic gun FLOATS...gonna make it hard to dispose of the evidence. And there'll be a $10,000 MARPOL fine for tossing it overboard, too. <VBG>
Nah. If you need a gun to go there, you don't need to go there. Only jihadis can travel freely with guns.
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28-06-2013, 21:16
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#64
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Resin Head
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle WA
Boat: Nauticat
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Re: Have you Fired an Converted Flare Gun?
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Originally Posted by hellosailor
Flare gun, right, if you don't scare the bad man off, he's just gonna be pissed while you try reloading. Guns and borders are a problem, even here in the US there are many places where an old shotgun is still going to be illegal without a license for it.
3D printed gun...sure, the sky has fallen, but what they neglect to say is that it is a throw-away piece. When the actual important part of the gun, the receiver or chamber, is made on a 3d printer, the odds are it will fail either on the first try or sometime soon after, as confirmed by a number of the folks who have made and tested them. Not to worry, there's always the other hand, right?
And frankly, a saturday night special is going to be cheaper and more reliable. The technology certainly has potential, and uses, but if that plastic gun FLOATS...gonna make it hard to dispose of the evidence. And there'll be a $10,000 MARPOL fine for tossing it overboard, too. <VBG>
Nah. If you need a gun to go there, you don't need to go there. Only jihadis can travel freely with guns.
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Where exactly in the US is a shotgun illegal without licence? Never heard of such a thing. I was handed my first 12 gauge at 11 years old, only bolt action .22 before that. Needless to say I had no papers. Neither did anyone else.
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28-06-2013, 21:45
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Montegut LA.
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Re: Have you Fired an Converted Flare Gun?
If you have proper boat with the proper doc's you can have a properly installed gun locker ! We don't have one on our current boat, but did have a locked gun locker abord our colvin and never had a problem anywhere we cruised !! have things changed so much ???
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28-06-2013, 22:18
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Oregon
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Re: Have you Fired an Converted Flare Gun?
What is a "proper gun locker"? A small locker (wood) with a lock?
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28-06-2013, 22:55
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Resin Head
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle WA
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Re: Have you Fired an Converted Flare Gun?
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Originally Posted by Guy
What is a "proper gun locker"? A small locker (wood) with a lock?
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I like biometric safes. A single like this will fit in most full length lockers with room to spare.
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28-06-2013, 23:25
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Montegut LA.
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Re: Have you Fired an Converted Flare Gun?
Never saw a wooden one! Most are steel and well mounted to the vessel, so it can not be easily un- attached. And well locked! Don't really think a wooden gun locker would be accepted. Also needs to be labled as a gun locker. I don't know if hand guns can be transported this way, but shot guns and rifles can ! Just a thought
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29-06-2013, 05:05
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
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Re: Have you Fired an Converted Flare Gun?
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Originally Posted by minaret
Where exactly in the US is a shotgun illegal without licence? ...
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I believe that Connecticut, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Illinois, Massachusetts, and New Jersey, all require a State Permit to purchase a Long Gun.
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29-06-2013, 06:27
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
Posts: 2,097
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Re: Have you Fired an Converted Flare Gun?
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Originally Posted by GordMay
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thats is not correct sir.
i know American gun laws well.
NRA-ILA | State Laws
CT has a new law
After April 1. 2014 a long gun "eligibility certificate" is required.
HI needs a permit
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29-06-2013, 08:06
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Presently in Rogersville, Al
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Re: Have you Fired an Converted Flare Gun?
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Originally Posted by sageofsalem
That was a shame the US government gave free shrimp boats to those fortunate enough to be relocated from South Vietnam after that war. The "Coonasses" could not compete with the low "overhead" the Viets enjoyed.
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The fact of the matter is Coonasses could not compete with anyone actually working for a living. While the Vietnamese were shrimping, the Coonasses were having 'one more beer'. I have seen as many as 3 families living on a shrimp boat and bathing in the bayous. A sacrifice that most American born families would never make. As for the free shrimp boat thing, I have never seen it and no one has been able to show me documentation of it. Hopefully you can.
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29-06-2013, 10:48
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Re: Have you Fired an Converted Flare Gun?
Minaret-
While we may argue the semantics of "permit" versus "license" or "certificate" or whatever...as Gord mentions, plenty of states. Then there are municipalities like NYC where you must PREpay a registration fee or surrender the weapon for police safekeeping (ha, about as safe as many small island nations) and DC, which I haven't checked lately but would expect shotguns wouldn't be welcome.
Onceuponatime, before JFK got shot and the country started to go nuts, when every (EVERY) high school had a shooting team and every summer camp had a rifle range...you could walk down the streets of Manhattan with a double-barrel shotgun over your shoulder, as long as the breech was open. Do that today, with or without paperwork, and you'd better have a real big box of KrispieKremes to placate the heavily armored teams that will surround you.
Municipal laws trump the state ones, no "states" firearms guide book will list them all.
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15-07-2013, 08:45
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Pa
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Re: Have you Fired an Converted Flare Gun?
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Originally Posted by Capt Phil
We used a lot of string, thank goodness. We are both on the right side of the grass despite a lifetime of risky foolishness... cheers, Phil
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What is the right side of the grass? I live underground and work there to! LMFAO ( coal miner)
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15-07-2013, 08:55
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#74
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
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Re: Have you Fired an Converted Flare Gun?
here is a thought.
can a flare gun fire a bean bag or other non-lethal shot type?
Bean bag round - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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15-07-2013, 18:10
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#75
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always in motion is the future
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: in paradise
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Originally Posted by scoobert
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Posession of those ammo types is just as illegal as posession of a shotgun. Why would you risk it?
P.s. most (all?) less than lethal ammo types are only non lethal when used at greater than 10 meter (30') distances.
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