Ever give up Booze?

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

And there are as many other links that will show the opposite.
Its like all food items, in moderation.

Certainly.
ie:
Brain power (August 2011): Chicago researchers conducted a Neuropsychiatric Disease and Treatment review of more than 140 studies since 1977 that included 365,000 people, and found moderate drinkers (one drink a day for women, two drinks a day for men) have a 23 per cent reduced risk of developing Alzheimer's disease, other kinds of dementia and cognitive impairment.
➥ Moderate alcohol consumption and cognitive risk

Stronger bones (February 2010): California researchers say growing research suggests beer may have nutritional properties. Some brands contain silicon, a nutrient that helps strengthen bones and might help reduce the risk of osteoporosis and other diseases including heart disease. "The reality is there's now growing consensus around the world that the active ingredient in alcoholic beverages that counters atherosclerosis is alcohol. It doesn't matter if it's wine or beer," said Charles Bamforth, a biochemist at the University of California, Davis.
➥ Silicon in beer and brewing - Casey - 2010 - Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture - Wiley Online Library

Healthier heart (November 2010): Researchers at Toulouse University in France find that regular and moderate alchohol intake through the week is associated with low risk of ischemic heart disease, but binge drinking results in a higher risk. The study examined 9,758 men in three cities in France and Belfast in Northern Ireland who were free of heart disease when the research began in 1991, and followed them over an average of 10 years.
➥ Patterns of alcohol consumption and ischaemic heart disease in culturally divergent countries: the Prospective Epidemiological Study of Myocardial Infarction (PRIME) | The BMJ

Lower dementia risk (July 2009): A Wake Forest University study presented at the International Conference on Alzheimer's Disease suggests a glass or two of alcohol daily offers long-term cognitive protection and reduces the risk of dementia in older adults with no memory problems, offers long-term cognitive protection and reduces the risk of dementia in older adults. The study involved 3,069 individuals 75 years or older who drank beer, wine and liquor.
➥ Regular moderate alcohol intake has cognitive benefits in older adults | EurekAlert! Science News

But, the researchers didn't deny that there may be no benefits, just that they appear to be overstated.

"We should drink alcohol for pleasure," Stockwell said in an interview. "But if you think it's for your health, you're deluding yourself."

[SaltyMonkey]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Man up or Shut Up..

Well, well, well. That was expected. That's exactly what a repressed 13 year old with a testo-shoulder-chip who has a bald head and wears a female bikini bottom on a beeech and funny hatt and swings balls with streamers would say, is it not?

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey

Well, well, well. That was expected. That's exactly what a repressed 13 year old with a testo-shoulder-chip who has a bald head and wears a female bikini bottom on a beeech and funny hatt and swings balls with streamers would say, is it not?

Hey.. never claimed to be perfect..
But at least I've some balls to swing..

PS: not bald yet.. just not sad enough to hang onto the ponytail with a thinning crown

[uncle stinkybob]

[QUOTE=Celestialsailor;2052284]

Originally Posted by tinkrman69

I've found that if I look deep enough into it and contemplate the full meaning of it, the "Golden Rule" Will solve all my troubles.

Ya...those with the gold, rule!

Well said!

[SaltyMonkey]

Never a more intelligent, handsome and brave monkey has been than I. I attribute this to an abstinence of coconut beer and onion loafs. At every moment I advise my lot. As soon as ol' Caesar bust outta that lab, we will take over this earth. Every civilization has failed because of alcohol and drugs. Witness the Greeks, the Romans and, of course, the British (although they dared to try with their cupcakes and tea parties). Nay yet to speak of the French which time does not allow for insults vulgar and strong. Only monkey knowest the secret to civilization. Follow me and lean the secrets of an honest and truthful life.

/~\
C oo
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SaltyMonkey - thats me!

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey

Follow me and lean the secrets of an honest and truthful life.

/~\
C oo
_( ^)
/ ~\

SaltyMonkey - thats me!

Ya gotta cut back on the Bananas mate..

[Blue Crab]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Hey.. never claimed to be perfect..
But at least I've some balls to swing..

PS: not bald yet.. just not sad enough to hang onto the ponytail with a thinning crown

Good call Phil. Nothing is a whole lot more pathetic than pattern baldness with a ponytail like hipster Salty Monkey wears. Just sayin.

[sailorboy1]

This is almost a perfect thread, it makes me want to drink!

[dannc]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

Which President as a child was prescribe to smoke cigars because he has asthma? I really don't know and that may even have been in the 1800's or so, and yes I am certain the tobacco companies were behind it the supposed health effects, what's a conspiracy theory without it?

It was Teddy Roosevelt. He was a VERY sickly kid. They would shut him in his rooms and have people smoke in the room as well as have him smoke cigars.

TR got healthy when you moved from NYC to the western US. He had a ranch, rode horses and punched cattle.

The "punched" cattle reference should cause some head scratching for the CFers who are non US English speakers.

Later,
Dan

[barboak]

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[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Blue Crab

Good call Phil. Nothing is a whole lot more pathetic than pattern baldness with a ponytail like hipster Salty Monkey wears. Just sayin.

Damn.. did not realise Salty sported a pony tail..
I was referring to my former flowing locks..

[SaltyMonkey]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Damn.. did not realise Salty sported a pony tail..
I was referring to my former flowing locks..

[svmariane]

Originally Posted by boatman61

I'll agree with you Jedi.. its mainly just a feeble excuse to lay the blame at someone else's door instead of exercising responsibility and self control..
Everyone has.. and makes a choice.. apart from some babies born to heroin addicts no one is born with set addictions.. same as criminals who blame their parents or their environment... to many ready to judge.. and to many crying victim..
Man up or Shut Up..

Not quite sure how to take that one. Man up or shut up?

12 step AA program,
step #1 .... admit powerless over alcohol... So: man up.
step #12.... try to carry this message to alcoholics... So talk about it to others who might need a little help - not exactly shut up.

Maybe I just misinterpreted your meaning. If so - apologies.

This thread comes with an unsubscribe option for those uninterested in the topic. Just saying.....

James

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by svmariane

Not quite sure how to take that one. Man up or shut up?

12 step AA program,
step #1 .... admit powerless over alcohol... So: man up.
step #12.... try to carry this message to alcoholics... So talk about it to others who might need a little help - not exactly shut up.

Maybe I just misinterpreted your meaning. If so - apologies.

This thread comes with an unsubscribe option for those uninterested in the topic. Just saying.....

James

Maybe... maybe not..
Folk are programed to rely on crutches.. Religion, Family, Country.. Love.. but often when these fail to live up to their promises many can't stand on their own feet.. next come the shrinks and advisors.. more broken crutches.. so the search turns into escape.. its not that alcohol or drugs control you.. its the fact that after all the programed crutches have broken you can't control yourself..
Folks say 'Its not the gun that kills.. its the Man..!!'
The same goes for Drugs and Alcohol.. its the Man not the drug.. they're not powerless to alcohol.. they're powerless to themselves.
Seen to many folks I've known walk the road of self pity to their own destruction to feel sorry for them.. to many guilt trips laid on them by the broken social crutches littering the path behind them.. 'addiction' is just a hole to hide in.
Yeah I know.. I'm a heartless bastard but life's just another form of battlefield..

[Alan Mighty]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Folk are programed to rely on crutches.. Religion, Family, Country.. Love.. but often when these fail to live up to their promises many can't stand on their own feet.. next come the shrinks and advisors.. more broken crutches.. so the search turns into escape.. its not that alcohol or drugs control you.. its the fact that after all the programed crutches have broken you can't control yourself..

What, other than social norms, is wrong with self-medicating if self-medicating copes with the peculiarities of one's brain chemistry? Especially if the self-medication leads to better performance and an enhanced contribution to society?


Users of ketamine use to cope with some fault in individual brain chemistry that leads to depression. And in some jurisdictions ketamine is prescribed for depression.


Same goes for heroin, nicotine, cannabis, and alcohol. Each of them is used for self-medication. And perhaps some folk need help to find the right dosage. And perhaps some others are still searching for the right self-medication and have just gone down a blind alley by choosing the wrong medication.


See: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/06/op...d-for-you.html