Ever give up Booze?

[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by K_V_B

It's not that simple. Moderate consumption of alcohol has positive health effects.

Just because I'm feeling argumentative, I'll point out that at least until the 1960's, cigarettes were considered to have healthy effects by many.

Now I drink moderately myself, but wouldn't be surprised to find that any studies showing the healthy effect of alcohol consumption, just might be funded by alcohol producers?

I remember a TV commercial that said that more Doctors recommend Chesterfield than any other brand if I'm not mistaken.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

Just because I'm feeling argumentative, I'll point out that at least until the 1960's, cigarettes were considered to have healthy effects by many.

Now I drink moderately myself, but wouldn't be surprised to find that any studies showing the healthy effect of alcohol consumption, just might be funded by alcohol producers?

I remember a TV commercial that said that more Doctors recommend Chesterfield than any other brand if I'm not mistaken.

Ahh... that was before WD&HO Wills were bought out and absorbed into BAT... then the additives started.
Kinda like Austin, Morris, etc when they were swallowed to become British Leyland....

[K_V_B]

Originally Posted by astokel

In Ontario, Canada the limit is 80 milligrams and you can lose your car drivers licence for operating a vessel under the influence.

What if you don't have a license...


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[atoll]

Originally Posted by K_V_B

What if you don't have a license...


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then it's best to use the auto pilot whilst drunk

though on my catamaran I allways have lots of women to do the steering,i get the ugly ones to stay sober..........

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by K_V_B

What if you don't have a license...


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It is a criminal offense as well.

255 (1) Every one who commits an offence under section 253 or 254 is guilty of an indictable offence or an offence punishable on summary conviction and is liable,

(a) whether the offence is prosecuted by indictment or punishable on summary conviction, to the following minimum punishment, namely,

(i) for a first offence, to a fine of not less than $1,000,

(ii) for a second offence, to imprisonment for not less than 30 days, and

(iii) for each subsequent offence, to imprisonment for not less than 120 days;

(b) where the offence is prosecuted by indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years; and

(c) if the offence is punishable on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term of not more than 18 months.

[Rustic Charm]

Originally Posted by astokel

In Ontario, Canada the limit is 80 milligrams and you can lose your car drivers licence for operating a vessel under the influence.

Dude, I think you mean 0.08 80 and you would be pickled in a jar (and well and truly dead)

[Rustic Charm]

Originally Posted by jackdale

In Canada, any level of impairment can be a crime.

Criminal Code

that's the same in Australia, which is what I was trying to say with being found under the influence. It is what makes the driving offence of DUI here. You don't have to be over the legal limit, just impaired.

[Rustic Charm]

Originally Posted by K_V_B

It's not that simple. Moderate consumption of alcohol has positive health effects. And I wouldn't know how to survive (and even have anything remotely approaching fun) at a party without some booze.

But then I come from a completely different culture with regards to alcohol than the the US. I remember when applying to participate in an exchange student program I had to fill out an (American English) form asking if I drank alcoholic liquor. I answered "no", because as far as I know, I didn't. Beer and wine wasn't liquor. That term was reserved (in our language) for distilled stuff, and I didn't touch that until I was in my thirties.

But wine and beer? No problem. The last time I ever drank coca cola in my life was when I was 13. Someday in that year my dad told me that I was now to old for soft drinks (which are for children) I could have a beer in stead. Took me some getting used to the taste, but you know how one is as a young teenager. You don't want to disappoint your dad.

Soft drinks are for kids. Comparing the general health of the population between say, France and the US I would say that sugar is a bigger health problem than alcohol...

Not wanting to outdo the Yanks, but Alcohol is a far bigger problem in Australia than the US. They just have a bigger population than us.

However, a world without drunks would put a lot of people, including me, out of a job

[atoll]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

Not wanting to outdo the Yanks, but Alcohol is a far bigger problem in Australia than the US. They just have a bigger population than us.

However, a world without drunks would put a lot of people, including me, out of a job

watch out driverless cars are coming onto the market soon,you may still be out of a job...ever tried arresting a machine

[Rustic Charm]

So, Netherlands is 0.08

Australia 0.05 (it began at 0.1 in Australia, then when RBT's came in about the early 80's or late 70's it dropped to 0.08 and then to 0.05 in the late 80's. There have been recent moves afoot to make it zero, but so far they have been fought off).

Is it .08 throughout the US?

what is is in the UK?

[atoll]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

So, Netherlands is 0.08

Australia 0.05 (it began at 0.1 in Australia, then when RBT's came in about the early 80's or late 70's it dropped to 0.08 and then to 0.05 in the late 80's. There have been recent moves afoot to make it zero, but so far they have been fought off).

Is it .08 throughout the US?

what is is in the UK?

0,08 in the uk,but if you live near the border with scotland watch out as it is now 0.05 in scotland
so effectively on winedy roads near the border you can alternate between drunk and sober depending on which stretch of the road you are on.......the law is an aassss

[sailorboy1]

You can have my beer when you pry it out of my cold lifeless hand!

[Rustic Charm]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

Just because I'm feeling argumentative, I'll point out that at least until the 1960's, cigarettes were considered to have healthy effects by many.

Now I drink moderately myself, but wouldn't be surprised to find that any studies showing the healthy effect of alcohol consumption, just might be funded by alcohol producers?

I remember a TV commercial that said that more Doctors recommend Chesterfield than any other brand if I'm not mistaken.

I'm really curious to know 'what' positive health effects were cigarettes thought to have up until the 60's?

Yes, I know you can get so called medical professionals speaking on behalf of the tobacco companies, still can. Some people can be bought to say anything. But in mainstream medical world, when did the medical world ever suggest that in haling tobacco was positive?

[sailorboy1]

[QUOTE=Rustic Charm;2079543]I'm really curious to know 'what' positive health effects were cigarettes thought to have up until the 60's?
/QUOTE]

Wasn't it like getting sex, or riding a horse, etc.? The people smoking always seemed to get to do all those things.

[boatman61]

If Humphry had not blown smoke in her face.. would he have got Bacall..??