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07-02-2014, 15:51
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#91
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Caribbean live aboard
Boat: Camper & Nicholson58 Ketch - ROXY Traverse City, Michigan No.668283
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'
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Originally Posted by Dale Hedtke
That was rude of the 2 boats on shore not to move when the ship blew its horn....
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I wondered why he didn't drop anchors when he came to a stop.
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07-02-2014, 16:52
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#92
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One of Those
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Colorado
Boat: Catalac 12M (sold)
Posts: 3,218
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'
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Originally Posted by David_Old_Jersey
If you are referring to your Catalac - even though built like a brick outhouse it wasn't designed to do that.
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I was paraphrasing a statement by a Catalac 12M owner who is the original owner of the boat and was at the factory with the Lack family when it was built. I figured he knew what he was talking about. Silly me.
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07-02-2014, 16:59
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#93
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Senior Cruiser
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Location: PORTUGAL
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'
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Originally Posted by Canibul
I was paraphrasing a statement by a Catalac 12M owner who is the original owner of the boat and was at the factory with the Lack family when it was built. I figured he knew what he was talking about. Silly me.
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Owners come out with all sorts of boasts when talking about their boats..
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07-02-2014, 17:05
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#94
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Annapolis, MD, USA
Boat: Menger 19' Catboat
Posts: 245
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'
Everyone has a different perspective on this topic, and it depends a lot on what kind of boat you own, where you cruise, and the kind of "cruising" you do.
In my own case -- these days at least -- I'm sailing a very shallow-draft small cruising catboat (22" with the board up, small diesel inboard with the prop in an aperture) in the Chesapeake Bay and cruising for only a few days at a time. For me, in these circumstances, beaching the boat occasionally makes a whole lot of sense.
99.9% of the beaches in my cruising area are fine sand or soft mud, and all the ones I'm likely to run my bow up on are in well-sheltered spots. The tidal range is minimal. I haul my boat every winter and can easily touch up bottom paint wear.
What's not to like about it for a guy like me?
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07-02-2014, 17:22
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#95
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2008
Boat: Custom cutter, 42'
Posts: 702
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'
Careening does not require the boat taking the ground. It can be done by running a line (halyard) from the masthead to a tree, anchor, whatever, and running another line from the same side of the hull as the halyard down into the water, under the hull, and off to another anchor, tree, whatever. Winch in the halyard and the boat lays over on her side.
It is very important to do this in protected water only. Waves can really put a strain on things. And you need two of the lines going under the hull to keep it from turning.
This is also very old tech.
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08-02-2014, 04:41
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#96
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,012
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'
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Originally Posted by Canibul
I was paraphrasing a statement by a Catalac 12M owner who is the original owner of the boat and was at the factory with the Lack family when it was built. I figured he knew what he was talking about. Silly me.
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my assumption was that you were exagerating for simplicity - i was just clarifying in case others took it as literal.
of course i was not their at the build.......................good luck .
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08-02-2014, 04:55
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#97
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,012
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'
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Originally Posted by Ukeluthier
What's not to like about it for a guy like me?
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nothing - sounds spot on and fun .
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08-02-2014, 19:55
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#98
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Caribbean live aboard
Boat: Camper & Nicholson58 Ketch - ROXY Traverse City, Michigan No.668283
Posts: 6,639
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'
THIS IS HOW ITS DONE.
this boat has a CB. Beaching is easy and the bottom can be serviced without ladders. Fringe benefit is you can take it almost anywhere.
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08-02-2014, 20:02
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#99
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 10,280
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'
Nice. Is it quite stable against tipping, without the need for support?
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08-02-2014, 20:20
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#100
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Caribbean live aboard
Boat: Camper & Nicholson58 Ketch - ROXY Traverse City, Michigan No.668283
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'
I don't know how its kept upright. Perhaps blocks on the far side. Anchor lines from halyards? Maybe the CB is down One thing is clear, it wouldn't matter if it was on its chine.
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08-02-2014, 20:30
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#101
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 10,280
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'
Looks like not a lot of rudder clearance so you would need to pick your spot.
But so easy to do the hull
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09-02-2014, 00:09
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#102
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,441
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'
Great option, beaching, in an anchorage where the deep keel boats are being hit by williwaws from random directions and dragging and crashing into each other all night.
Makes splendid viewing (and sound effects) when your keel is retracted and you're tied to a couple of stout trees.
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11-02-2014, 05:02
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#103
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Location: some ocean down under
Boat: Kelsall Suncat 40
Posts: 1,248
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'
So is this beaching, running aground or simply some good 3rd world creativity to put your boat up on the hard after your prepare the stands?
https://www.youtube.com/embed/QYltdo...&enablejsapi=1
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11-02-2014, 11:33
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#104
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Lived aboard & cruised for 45 years,- now on a chair in my walk-in closet.
Boat: Morgan OI 413 1973 - Aythya
Posts: 8,493
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'
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Originally Posted by Jimbo485
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None of the above. That's a case of depositing scrap metal!
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13-02-2014, 16:18
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#105
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2014
Boat: Still Searching
Posts: 164
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'
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Originally Posted by CaptForce
None of the above. That's a case of depositing scrap metal!
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Even still, that some pretty good driving from my perspective. Don't think I could split the uprights like that.
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