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19-05-2009, 15:53
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
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It appears that someone just salvaged a very nice yacht.
Jack
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20-05-2009, 11:42
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Wherever our boat is; Playa Zaragoza, Isla Margarita
Boat: 1994 Solaris Sunstream 40
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Sadly, not an uncommon tale. Some of you may remember a book from the 1980's by a Canadian sailor who abondoned his Nonsuch 30 in the Atlantic, as I recall criticizing the designer (Mark Ellis) and the builder (Hinterholler) for the vessel's failings. Well, you guessed it, it was found 6 months later drifting in (I believe) the Sea of Japan, having survived intact by lying ahull and drifting for many thousands of miles unattended.
If there is a lesson to be learned it is probably this: the greatest risk that most of face when offshore in terrible conditions is our own fear.
Brad
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20-05-2009, 11:50
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Las Brisas Panama AGAIN!
Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE
Posts: 4,507
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Southern Star,
I have to agree with you on fear. It can either break you down, or it can make you stronger. Ellis & Hinterholler must have been snickering when the boat was found......i2f
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29-09-2009, 12:00
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Boat: Albin Ballad; 1978; 30'-00" "SVINT II"
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That is why I maintain.... should the situation ever arise: "Step UP into your liferaft, not DOWN"
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29-09-2009, 12:14
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 211
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic de Beer
That is why I maintain.... should the situation ever arise: "Step UP into your liferaft, not DOWN" 
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That's an old cliché but nevertheless one that I agree with, sat in the comfort of my armchair...
Even Richard Woods (prolific cat designer, boat builder and sailor) abandoned Eclipse in a Pacific storm, only to hear of his boat still afloat several months later (albeit minus engine, sails, etc, etc). Let's not forget that it can get scary out there, at times, and when it does your usual good judgement can be overcome by fear and the desire to survive.
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29-09-2009, 13:47
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: In transit ( Texas to wherever the wind blows us)
Boat: Pacific Seacraft a Crealock 34
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I have personal experience of being on a sinking yacht, in the Atlantic, in 70 plus winds. When all two electrical and one manual bilge pump broke down I decided to drag the life raft out from under the dinette table. My captain just looked at me from her bunk and said "If this fine boat can't take this storm, what makes you think that rubber raft can?"
Stay with the boat,
Erika
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29-09-2009, 19:25
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,820
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I agree, Erika
Not having a shot at Vic, but that saying is said very often. too often, and is not expressive enough. But Vic and all that use it are well meaning  When I read it I always think the liferaft WILL be above the boat... on the swells!
My dad had some sayings to me as a child trying to teach me things, or reinforce safety things. Some I only ever understood when I was an adult. Better to use straight language: You chances of survival are far higher in a yacht awash in a storm than any liferaft. etc
Maybe we should come up with a great definitive statement we can all use and remember when in the situation.
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