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Old 22-03-2011, 11:48   #61
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I can tell from your avatar that you don't have the chain properly attached to the anchor.
Yeah, no kidding!!
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Old 22-03-2011, 12:12   #62
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can ye tell by mine that my garter slipped?????
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My point exactally.....
but we're detracting from the intent of this thread.
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Old 22-03-2011, 12:28   #64
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My point exactally.....
but we're detracting from the intent of this thread.
i think has gone a better way,,meself.... family bashing in storm situations isnt fair-- wait til their next misadventure, then scalp em.....
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It's clear that at 1:22 min. into the official video earlier posted that there is an attached bridle and the boat is riding at anchor. What the video doesn't show is where, how or when the rescued boat broke the mooring or escaped the slip.
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Only just read this thread - I wondered how long it would take before the kicking started From early on Page 1 must be some sort of record, even for CF
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It's clear that at 1:22 min. into the official video earlier posted that there is an attached bridle and the boat is riding at anchor. What the video doesn't show is where, how or when the rescued boat broke the mooring or escaped the slip.
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nice black square is what i got from that exercise.
is difficult at best to catch fotos in a storm when seas are in excess of 30 ft and wind is blowing like stink. is also very difficult to remain attached to any kind of anchoring device. this was not a sweet lil rainfall we get. is a big wind, lotsa seas storm. and the direction of the winds and seas precluded any kind of idea of staying put in any kind of anchoring situation. there are not slips doled out to those with very low income or history of having been an anchor out in san diego's anchorage 8.
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nice black square is what i got from that exercise.
That link does now indeed lead to darkness. I thought it worked earlier or at least there was one that did and showed the bridle and taught line.

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During the rescue the waves look like 2' or less. There are larger period swells, some of which crest a little (due to shallowing ?) but it certainly isn't rough. They must be anchored behind some protection during the rescue since the big waves and swells were around outside LA Harbor for a few hours after sunrise.



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For the sake of the parents I hope no child protection agency sees the video. While the condition during the rescue were almost like a mill-pond, the horrific condition of the boat's upkeep and knowing that there was a real blow 6 hours earlier makes one fear for what other dangers the 6 month old baby might be facing.



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CPS had us move off our boat when we got custody of our grandchildren. They had to have their own private bedroom with a door, individual bed etc.
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Re: Family rescued off California coast

Considering the thread drift... anyone notice if that's a GoPro camera the coastie has helmet mounted? Some pretty good footage considering the circumstances...
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This one should work better. Taken by helmet cam.
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Clearly there's an anchor attached.
Wave height also apparent. Waves always look flatter when viewed from above.
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Wave height also apparent.
Look at the video, waves look no more than 2'. The swells are probably larger but not threatening, just rolling the boat around a bit. The best indicator of how calm it is is when the swimmer is next to the hull.



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That's one opinion Sven, I guess the Coast Guard on duty were simply inept at estimating wave height and wind speed. And let's not forget about the Dolphin's wave height sensor, it was probably malfunctioning.
The standard model for estimating wave height SEAS =
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Re: Family rescued off California coast

lets not also forget that kali had storms with 40 kt winds. lets also not forget there ar e circumstances hee not understood by those outside of this immediate storm area.
now is this saint babs or lost angels?? both are in the santa barbara channel, renown for treacherous currents and fatalities, lee shore, big seas, especially in storms, etc. lost angels is on the southern part and isnt as wicked, as point conception does a good job. if is saint babs, is much more treacherous and point conception merely swirls the currents.
i have also noticed that seas look flatter in pictures and videos than they are in person. if the rescue was called due to fear on the part of the family, they shoulda thunk afore the storm...unless this was first storm for them...
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