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Old 16-11-2021, 20:03   #1
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Dismasted by an aircraft carrier

The good news is no injuries.

"The Charles de Gaulle belatedly detected a sailboat of around ten meters at a very short distance, shortly before 07:30," the report of the French authorities say. "Despite an emergency maneuver to avoid this sailboat and in the absence of its reaction, a collision occurred around 07:30 between the sailboat and the hull of the Charles de Gaulle."

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how in the world can ANY ship...let alone a warship with sensors and lookouts to burn...suddenly only see a reasonable size yacht just moments before a collision ! imagine it was a terrorist suicide bomber !!

defies understanding

somebody should be joining the american sub skipper in retirement...

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An interview with the Polish-American solo sailor in a French paper today says he was down below when he was hit, with his radar only aimed forward. The first thing he saw was a gray wall. The collision knocked down his mast and blew out his ports. His saying that he also doesn't speak French raises the question as to whether his radio was on. The Charles de Gaulle is nuclear-powered so may not be a noisy as other ships might be. They were apparently not involved in flight ops at the time, and there do not seem to have been any escort vessels with the carrier.
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psk125, thanks for that informative, interesting comment.
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The original article states the carrier was starting its training activities, subsequently missing from the article is “by striking a 10 meter sailboat” 😉, and then sending a rescue team to the sailboat - relax guys, it’s all part of the plan. 😊
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Re: Dismasted by an aircraft carrier

work of art hitting a huge grey wall.
no is not the fault of the carrier.
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OK, I've never heard of a radar that only points forward..
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OK, I've never heard of a radar that only points forward..
I suspect he's referring to a setting on the radar where it sounds an alarm if a return occurs within a certain area of concern. My radar has this function at any rate.
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I suspect he's referring to a setting on the radar where it sounds an alarm if a return occurs within a certain area of concern. My radar has this function at any rate.

Interesting - as a sailboat, we're usually the slowest thing out there, I would think a target approaching from behind would be of intense concern! But maybe he was thinking only of striking land or a buoy.


Given the sea state I suspect the carrier's radar never saw him amongst the waves (a normal thing) and at 0730, while daylight conditions existed, it wasn't bright, and any lights he was showing wouldn't have shown up either. It would be interesting to know if he was showing any lights before dawn (when the carrier might have spotted him ahead).


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how in the world can ANY ship...let alone a warship with sensors and lookouts to burn...suddenly only see a reasonable size yacht just moments before a collision ! imagine it was a terrorist suicide bomber !!



defies understanding



somebody should be joining the american sub skipper in retirement...



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The sailboat skipper was completely in the wrong. Warships have exclusion zones. If they had detected him they probably would have fired on him !!
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Carriers depend on their accompanying fleet for most of the stuff, is it possible that they are just not used to roaming alone and didn’t keep a proper watch?
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how in the world can ANY ship...let alone a warship with sensors and lookouts to burn...suddenly only see a reasonable size yacht just moments before a collision ! imagine it was a terrorist suicide bomber !!

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somebody should be joining the american sub skipper in retirement...

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Carriers depend on their accompanying fleet for most of the stuff, is it possible that they are just not used to roaming alone and didn’t keep a proper watch?
why are you not mentioning the failure of the sailboat to gtf out of the way. it is not carrier to get out of way of sailboat itis sailboat needs to stay away from carrier.. last i read was recreational vessels need to stay specified number of ft away from military and merchant ships. i doubt they have changed that demand.
and if a sailor or alleged sailor cannot see a bludi aircraft carrier in front of him or behind, then that sailor needs more sailing lessons.. it is sailors job to keep constant watch. that means check behind you not just in front. it also means stay the heck away from gross tonnage and military ships, which have restricted movement and limited visibility
you already know the carrier was keeping watch.
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why are you not mentioning the failure of the sailboat to gtf out of the way.
Whoa, seems like I pressed a nerve
Where did I say the sailboat is not to blame? Or rather, that the carrier is to blame?


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you already know the carrier was keeping watch.
According to the article in the OP they were not -

"The Charles de Gaulle belatedly detected a sailboat of around ten meters at a very short distance, shortly before 07:30"
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It sounds to me like there is plenty of fault to pass around. It will be interesting to see the final report.
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