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Old 10-05-2013, 18:02   #1
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Carnival Cruisers - MOB Tragedy

Two passengers fell overboard and are lost - hard to believe but very sad.
Search for missing Carnival Spirit cruise couple Paul Rossington and Kristen Schroder called off - he may have been trying to help her | News.com.au
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Re: Carnival Cruisers - MOB Tragedy

Tragically it reminds me a bit too much of the twist in Roald Dahl's "Dip in the Pool". You would think they would have better safety procedures nowadays?
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Re: Carnival Cruisers - MOB Tragedy

Perhaps carnival is the perfect name for this company?
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All railings on cruise ships are like chest high (I have been on a few) and either solid or with very tightly spaced stringers below that. Accidentally falling overboard is almost impossible. Sounds like they are considering that woman may have leaped on purpose and the boyfriend jumped in an attempt to save her.

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Re: Carnival Cruisers - MOB Tragedy

Can't blame Carnival for this one...

Sounds like she either jumped or decided to go for a midnight swim.
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Re: Carnival Cruisers - MOB Tragedy

Oh the irony. Right now there is an ad to the right that says "last minute cruise deals" showing a cruise ships railing and an orange life ring.
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All railings on cruise ships are like chest high (I have been on a few) and either solid or with very tightly spaced stringers below that. Accidentally falling overboard is almost impossible. Sounds like they are considering that woman may have leaped on purpose and the boyfriend jumped in an attempt to save her.

Sucks

People can do crazy things when they've had too much to drink. I think your scenario makes the most sense. you're right. Easy to fall over a small sailboat's lifelines -- you don't just "fall off" a cruise liner.
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Maybe she was doing something stupid like posing for a picture that her boyfriend was going to take, sitting on top of the rail, and fell over. Then he tried to save her.

Very sad.
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Reports are that the video seems to show her going in and then moments later he goes over.
Happened at 8.50 pm, discovered missing next morning when ship docked in Sydney.
No real chance, unfortunatly.
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The railings are far from chest high. If I remember right, they are 42 inches. Could be wrong, it's been a while. More like waist high. Bummer, people do stupid things when drunk.
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Well, 42" high or whatever, I've been on what, seven different cruise ships now and I'm confident that you can't accidentally fall over a railing unless you're doing something unsafe or intentional. Very sad.
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The railings are far from chest high. If I remember right, they are 42 inches. Could be wrong, it's been a while. More like waist high. Bummer, people do stupid things when drunk.
I just measured it. 42" is exactly chest high.
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I just measured it. 42" is exactly chest high.
For a midget.

Unless one has a furnisher disease, where the chest falls in the drawers.
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If the "boyfriend jumped in an attempt to save her", it's a remarkably strange way of showing that he wanted her alive.
Or him.
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I've been a sailor on commercial ships for years now, and there are few things I can think of that would be worse than watching the stern light of your ship slowly dissapear over the horizon. Just awful.
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