Canada bans NWP to Canadian Cruisers

[Night_Sailor]

"To better protect Arctic communities, pleasure craft are prohibited from operating in Canada's Arctic coastal waters north of the 60th parallel until October 31, 2020, at the earliest:"

Let's all delay our trips until November. LOL.

I used to manage supplies going to Cambridge Bay. There is only a two month weather window. They might as well have banned travel until July or Aug 2021.

[capn ken]

Sometimes it’s tough to be an American . God Speed Canada ,keep your country and its citizens safe .

[Pegu Club]

Its embarrassing that so many of my fellow Americans have the misguided notion that they have universal rights around the world. I really can’t wait for the first boneheaded American to get arrested by the Canadian authorities and have their boat confiscated, and sent home via a prison van to the US boarder. The saddest thing will be that my fellow American will cry that their non existent “rights” have been violated, the level of willful ignorance is frankly alarming, no wonder the world has been laughing at us for the past three years...

Fair winds all,

[roverhi]

But why do it for pleasure??? The native populations in the past have been much more susceptible to catastrophic results from infections by flu type viruses. In the 1918 flu one native Alaskan village suffered something like 70 fatalities out of an original population of 75. Possibly because of their isolation they don't have the antibodies to these viruses that the rest of us have and they are more often fatal. I'm sorry folks but punching the card on your bucket is just not enough reason to do something.

I'm sure if Canada shut access off to the NWP for the fun of it we'd have every nation sending ships to force the issue. Doubt that will happen with the Covid virus and that any nation will pressure Canada to treat pleasure boats arrested easily.

[nwdiver]

If you want to transit the NWP during a global pandemic........you are an IDIOT......and deserve to be polar bear food.

[MichGoBlue]

I was fortunate to transit the NWP in 89 on the Polar Star as we took the long way home to Seattle. We were assisting two Canadian breakers off of Barrow and they could not make headway through the ice behind us as it was closing in too quickly. Instead we escorted them to Halifax. The Canadians insisted on flying science personnel out to our ship so they could call it a joint science expedition instead of a rescue. It was a pretty exciting trip as GPS coverage was spotty and most land marks were covered in ice.

[Juggerknot]

I wonder what they'll make of me on my Nicaraguan flagged boat? I truly hope this gets resolved, we plan on a NWP trip next year weather permitting...

[lamadriver]

interesting i know of two boats en route north of Nome positioning for a transit ( neither us flagged)

ld

[OloteleMtn]

Originally Posted by Pegu Club

Its embarrassing that so many of my fellow Americans have the misguided notion that they have universal rights around the world. I really can’t wait for the first boneheaded American to get arrested by the Canadian authorities and have their boat confiscated, and sent home via a prison van to the US boarder. The saddest thing will be that my fellow American will cry that their non existent “rights” have been violated, the level of willful ignorance is frankly alarming, no wonder the world has been laughing at us for the past three years...

Fair winds all,

Some of you seem to take a perverse delight in trying to shame America; this is even more disturbing coming from Americans....your minds have been colonized by those who seek our destruction, as America is the last obstacle to achieving their global plan. I remember a saying from the late 60s and 70s...."America, love it or leave it" and i sincerely wish some of you would, as you are not helping with your "progressive attitude". I had no idea so many cruisers were lily livered America haters. The thread was about Canada anyway, maybe you should ask if you can go live there.

[GTom]

Originally Posted by jackdale

I am unaware of any pleasure craft that has made it through the NWP non-stop. That means no re-provisioning, no refueling, etc.. To do so, would require entering the country,

I was wondering if dropping an anchor without landing violates an innocent passage? Would be quite a boring trip though without landing.

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by lamadriver

interesting i know of two boats en route north of Nome positioning for a transit ( neither us flagged)

Do they have some sort of special permission? Flag is irrelevant. Last I read, all non-essential vessels were banned.

Originally Posted by GTom

I was wondering if dropping an anchor without landing violates an innocent passage? Would be quite a boring trip though without landing.

My understanding is yes. As soon as you drop anchor you've become affixed to land. And this requires the crew to clear in through customs. Innocent passage is a non-stop transit through territorial waters of another nation.

[Lodesman]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

My understanding is yes. As soon as you drop anchor you've become affixed to land. And this requires the crew to clear in through customs. Innocent passage is a non-stop transit through territorial waters of another nation.

From UNCLOS:

2. Passage shall be continuous and expeditious. However, passage

includes stopping and anchoring, but only in so far as the same are incidental

to ordinary navigation or are rendered necessary by force majeure or distress or for the purpose of rendering assistance to persons, ships or aircraft in danger or distress.

[Mike OReilly]

Exactly. I don't think a recreational NW Passage would qualify.

[Lodesman]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

Exactly. I don't think a recreational NW Passage would qualify.

???
It's international law - why would it affect recreational and commercial vessels differently? Note that anchoring such as would be ordinarily done in the due course of making the passage, is allowed.

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by Lodesman

???
It's international law - why would it affect recreational and commercial vessels differently? Note that anchoring such as would be ordinarily done in the due course of making the passage, is allowed.

The Canadian borders are closed to all non-essential visitors right now.

Anchoring is not incidental to a NWP, it is essential. Hence it is a planned arrival which is specifically banned.

Don't like it? Sue the government.