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22-12-2017, 06:50
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
Posts: 10,856
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Re: De-membering?
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Originally Posted by El Pinguino
The behaviour of some members in the last little while has made me seriously consider packing my camel as well....
One has to wonder how some of these people behave in the real world.... not a bad effort really... getting two threads closed in two days by behaving like very young and immature schoolyard bullies.....
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Which two threads were closed? I haven’t been paying much (if any) attention lately to climate change or political stuff, having completely lost interest in things and attitudes which can’t be changed.
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22-12-2017, 07:38
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#17
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Bumping around the Caribbean
Boat: Valiant 40
Posts: 4,625
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Re: De-membering?
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Originally Posted by Kenomac
Which two threads were closed? I haven’t been paying much (if any) attention lately to climate change or political stuff, having completely lost interest in things and attitudes which can’t be changed.
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The flat earth thread was closed after it meandered into a discussion of scientific certainty and by extension climate change, evolution, etc. However, it remained more civil that 95% of threads here and must have been closed on principal and not because of any particular bad behavior.
Not sure what other thread was closed.
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22-12-2017, 07:40
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#18
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
Posts: 10,856
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Re: De-membering?
Thanks.
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22-12-2017, 10:32
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: New York / Lake Ontario
Posts: 47
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Re: De-membering?
I have been here for a while, mostly just reading posts(without signing in) every day that were interesting, and ....did I miss something ( getting old) because I have not seen much that could be construed as offensive. Quite the opposite, this forum seems to be very well run...maybe I am just not paying attention?
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22-12-2017, 11:48
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#20
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Nashville
Boat: None
Posts: 265
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Re: De-membering?
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Originally Posted by Meacenas
I have been here for a while, mostly just reading posts(without signing in) every day that were interesting, and ....did I miss something ( getting old) because I have not seen much that could be construed as offensive. Quite the opposite, this forum seems to be very well run...maybe I am just not paying attention?
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It is, in my humble opinion, a very well run forum. But what happens here (and everywhere, really) is that there are some people who will say the metaphorical equivalent to "You're stupid," rather than showing the stupidity by attacking the arguments. A subset of those being attacked as stupid (or whatever) secretly fear that they might actually be, and get very offended.*
The offended then go all attack dog in the other direction, and it often escalates. It can be ugly, or amusing, or just boring, depending on your personality. The mods see it as violation, and words, posts, threads, and even people disappear.
The system here works very well. As best I can tell, this is the number 1 sailing/cruising site on the web.
*In my experience, people who are confident that a thing is false are typically amused, or at least, untroubled, rather than offended when accused of it. I mean, I imagine the bemused response, for example, if some newb came along and told estarzinger he was a moron about high latitude sailing...
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22-12-2017, 12:10
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#21
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Back in Mexico sailing south towards Panama
Boat: 1999 Pacific Seacraft 40
Posts: 734
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Re: De-membering?
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Originally Posted by StuM
"Relax, " said the night man
"We are programmed to receive
You can check-out any time you like
But you can never leave!"
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Well Stu - you really surprised me with that quote! Funny how one thinks that they may be the only "old" rock&roller around anymore.
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22-12-2017, 12:15
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: puget sound washington
Boat: 1968 Islander bahama 24 hull 182, 1963 columbia 29 defender. hull # 60
Posts: 13,100
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Re: De-membering?
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Originally Posted by Caribbeachbum
It is, in my humble opinion, a very well run forum. But what happens here (and everywhere, really) is that there are some people who will say the metaphorical equivalent to "You're stupid," rather than showing the stupidity by attacking the arguments. A subset of those being attacked as stupid (or whatever) secretly fear that they might actually be, and get very offended.*
The offended then go all attack dog in the other direction, and it often escalates. It can be ugly, or amusing, or just boring, depending on your personality. The mods see it as violation, and words, posts, threads, and even people disappear.
The system here works very well. As best I can tell, this is the number 1 sailing/cruising site on the web.
*In my experience, people who are confident that a thing is false are typically amused, or at least, untroubled, rather than offended when accused of it. I mean, I imagine the bemused response, for example, if some newb came along and told estarzinger he was a moron about high latitude sailing...
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as a real Newby ( went by newbs in the navy) I ought to try that and see what he says. But then again I would be calling myself the same considering where I like to cruise.
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22-12-2017, 12:24
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Back in the boat in Patagonia
Boat: Westerly Sealord
Posts: 8,427
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Re: De-membering?
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Originally Posted by Suijin
The flat earth thread was closed after it meandered into a discussion of scientific certainty and by extension climate change, evolution, etc. However, it remained more civil that 95% of threads here and must have been closed on principal and not because of any particular bad behavior.
Not sure what other thread was closed.
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The two threads I am talking about?.... In each one the OP made the first post and that was it.... the gentlemen of CF managed to get one thread closed in 9 posts , the other one took 14......
Now where are my jandles....?
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22-12-2017, 13:04
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#24
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2011
Boat: Valiant 42
Posts: 6,008
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Re: De-membering?
My first boss had a nice sign above his desk that I never forgot:
All visitors to this office bring joy; some by entering and others by leaving...
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22-12-2017, 13:07
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#25
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Anacortes, WA
Boat: Custom 55
Posts: 915
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Re: De-membering?
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Originally Posted by El Pinguino
The two threads I am talking about?.... In each one the OP made the first post and that was it.... the gentlemen of CF managed to get one thread closed in 9 posts , the other one took 14......
Now where are my jandles....?
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Check the shower...
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22-12-2017, 14:28
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: W Carib
Boat: Wildcat 35, Hobie 33
Posts: 13,500
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Re: De-membering?
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Originally Posted by transmitterdan
My first boss had a nice sign above his desk that I never forgot:
All visitors to this office bring joy; some by entering and others by leaving...
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A sign of a similar sentiment:
"Everyone is useful, no one is necessary".
Though I have known those who make me queston the "useful" premise.
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22-12-2017, 14:29
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#27
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: W Carib
Boat: Wildcat 35, Hobie 33
Posts: 13,500
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Re: De-membering?
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Originally Posted by Meacenas
I have been here for a while, mostly just reading posts(without signing in) every day that were interesting, and ....did I miss something ( getting old) because I have not seen much that could be construed as offensive. Quite the opposite, this forum seems to be very well run...maybe I am just not paying attention?
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Ah just reading...start posting...you're missing half the fun!"😆
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22-12-2017, 16:07
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: So Cal
Boat: Catalina 387
Posts: 967
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Re: De-membering?
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Originally Posted by Smokeys Kitchen
Well Stu - you really surprised me with that quote! Funny how one thinks that they may be the only "old" rock&roller around anymore. 
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Some of us even know we're too old for rock and roll, but too young to die.
(Now that's gonna be stuck in my head all day... off to find a JT record...)
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22-12-2017, 16:32
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#29
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Little Compton, RI
Boat: Cape George 31
Posts: 3,237
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Re: De-membering?
I too was astonished at the early shutdown of the flat earth thread. We were just getting to discuss "how we know what we know, or think we know," which has interesting logic implications...
On the other forum I inhabit (not a sailing one), a moderator will give a brief explanation of why the thread is being shut down. That way the guilty will be chastened, and the innocent will not be left wondering, "was it something I said?" That might be a nice feature.
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zartmancruising.com
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22-12-2017, 17:16
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#30
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: back at langkawi
Boat: valiant 40
Posts: 206
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Re: De-membering?
Right, now let's talk about firearms
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