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24-10-2009, 02:45
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Teaching English as a Foreign Language
TEFL, Teaching English as a Foreign Language
There are dozens of CELTA (Certificate of English Language Training to Adults) courses to be had, from 3 week basics to full one year diplomas.
What more info, feel free to email me. morris.jensen@auis.org
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25-10-2009, 15:16
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Folks, this is not an ad, I'm not selling EFL courses. I've been teaching English as a Foreign Language for years and truly believe it would be a feasible option for anyone setting off into the sunset and who would want to top up their sailing kitty en route.
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27-10-2009, 02:27
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"it would be a feasible option for anyone setting off into the sunset and who would want to top up their sailing kitty en route".
I have NO clue what you are talking about ...
but then, English is not my first language ...
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27-10-2009, 06:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gauguin
Folks, this is not an ad, I'm not selling EFL courses. I've been teaching English as a Foreign Language for years and truly believe it would be a feasible option for anyone setting off into the sunset and who would want to top up their sailing kitty en route.
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Well - it might work but its a bit "clunky" surely? Surely you'd have to advertise prior to arrival in a foreign port to get students? Then of course you are on the radar screen for the authorities which raises the questions or Trade Licences and/or Work Permits. Then, presumably, you've got to stay in one place for possibly quite some time, to offer more than just one lesson? I dunno.....
Tony
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27-10-2009, 06:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beachgirl1952
"it would be a feasible option for anyone setting off into the sunset and who would want to top up their sailing kitty en route".
I have NO clue what you are talking about ...
but then, English is not my first language ...
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Ah, Anya - You sound like an ideal candidate for my first course which I shall offer on the beautiful island of Curacao (I would have written this in Dutch of course but I havent attended the "Learning
Dutch as a Foreign Language Course" Yet
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27-10-2009, 06:38
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Hi Tony, Not so chunky really, and it has worked for lots of people travelling who want to earn steady cash as they go along.
There are several good websites for EFL teachers that offer jobs for native speakers. Normally the minimum qualification is a CELTA (see original posting).
If you had a rough date of your arrival in a country it wouldn’t take much nowadays to set up several interviews, with local language schools via email, especially since, in all probability you’d be starting with local language schools at the cheap end. Another point here, many schools (and we’re taking a small 3 to 5 room offices) hire an experience teacher, a Brit, American or such to manage the place and co-ordinate the other teachers, set progress tests and hire teachers, so you won’t need to speak the language of the country you are in.
You don’t advertise for students, you send your CV and/or make a few inquiries to all these language schools where the students go. Language schools are always on the look out for extra native speaking , qualified teachers to work the more unsociable hours, early morning and evening, and even weekends while they give the better hours to the permanent staff. Believe me I know, I started out that way in France.
The employer sorts out the work visa, if they are enquired. It’s not usually a big deal because you are not doing the work that a local resident can do. Plus to be honest, most local authorities are not interested in the kind of money an EFL teacher is going to make working a few hours at the language center he sends his kids to.
Now here’s the best part and the bit most people find hardest to believe. In the world of EFL it’s an advantage to your employer that you don’t speak the language of your students. Think about it, if you were paying good money to be taught say, French would you want your teacher to be chatting to you all the time in English?
Check out these websites http://www.tefl.com/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_English_as_a_foreign_language
Happy to answer any other questions.
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28-10-2009, 18:10
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How interesting!
I am a spanish speaking american student and would love to look into this further. In your experience is there a minimum amount of time that one would be expected to stay around?
Spencer
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28-10-2009, 18:28
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I have know teachers hired just for a week. But 2-3 weeks would be more reasonable for you and the employer. Summer schools prefer 6-8 weeks. It can depend on the type of EFL teaching you want to focus. (ESP, English for Special Purposes) Young learners, Business. TOELF training. It's a huge business, one that many native English speakers don't realise exsists outside their counties.
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29-10-2009, 05:07
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Ah, I see what you're getting at now! I originally thought that one would have to set up one's own mini mobile Language School.
Thanks for the info: I now think its probably quite workable! Tony
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07-12-2009, 10:12
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I have looked at this a lot, but was under the impression that jobs were more scarce and the salaries low in basically all the non-european countries people go cruising to.
I could see using it as a way to work 6 months on/off though. Work in Korea/Japan/Taiwan for a 6 month contract then take off. Pay is low but so are the taxes and housing usually paid by the employer.
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04-01-2010, 08:36
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DA VES ESL CAFE (google it). Tfl is good business depending on your qualifications. Many countries allow you to teach with just a degree and a TFL course. A few will allow a non-degreed person with just tfl teach. Thailand, China, Korea, Japan, and many more places all around the world seem to be always hiring. Most want a one year contract so they can afford to make you legal.
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06-01-2010, 14:34
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Sounds like a great way to get involved with the locals and provide a service at the same, as well as put a little coin in the pocket. Sounds like a win-win-win option. Gonna have to give this some serious consideration as a useful skill to have in my cruising bag.
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29-03-2010, 09:51
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I am interested in TEFL. What are the best schools out there to get a degree from?
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29-03-2010, 10:12
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Really interesting stuff. I crewed for a family around central america who made income this way, but it did not seem super easy -- just my impression. They were looking for schools in Costa Rica and Panama to make some cash in for a while, but they continued on to Columbia last I heard so I don't think they found a language school there. I believe she had the CELTA Cambridge certification...
It does seem like a win-win-win scenario, a great option. The real question, with a limited budget, is it worth the $2000+ for the CELTA certification? It appears in California that I would be looking at around $2400 for the 1-month intensive course...That month I would also be sacrificing job income, so the entire course would carry an opportunity cost of around 5k ... kinda heavy.
On one hand, it seems like a no-brainer - get certified and be able to cruise longer! On the other hand, when it costs as much as new standing rigging or a dinghy+outboard setup, how high does it figure on my list of expenditures before leaving. The fact that I could use it as a way to top up the kitty when needed (say if repairs were needed, etc.) is extremely appealing.
I spent a lot of time traveling in Chile and I had several friends doing this and making upwards of $10/hr, and visas/legalities were not a major obstacle, seems like short contracts were done under-the-table and for longer-contracts the school went to the trouble of working out a visa...Probably for all the reasons mentioned in this thread, that it is a beneficial service, not displacing a local for the same position, etc....
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30-03-2010, 09:26
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In the early 1990s, I spent a couple of years teaching ESL, as a partner in an ESL school, and as a foreign director, in Taiwan. While the rules and opportunities have changed, there are still opportunities to earn decent money, provided that you are willing to stay for a while. By "a while", I mean a couple of months. Don't bother arranging employment prior to going there or you'll end up with a contract that pays the minimum going rate. The same opportunities are available in other areas of Asia & Central/South America, though the renumeration covers little more than your daily expenses, in most areas. Susan Griffiths wrote a very good book on this topic, from a U.K. perspective. She wrote, as well, books on working your way around the world. As has been mentioned, there are various ESL sites on the internet for more current information.
Mike
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