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27-09-2012, 11:45
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Location: Algarve, Portugal
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Loud music... anchoring too close!
So I come around the corner to avoid yet another blast of wind, everyone has anchored sensibly for a north easterly, all good,but at 9 pm along comes a charter boat , drops the hook right next to me, puts out **** all chain, i have out loads, i know when the wind turns my arse will hit their nose,(assuming they dont drag first- god im eventually getting good at this anchoring thing) i shout at them to let out more chain they look mystified and eventually reply reply by dropping another 5 meters.
So now i am applying my new jedi mind trick, turn the stereo up full blast and see if i can annoy them into moving, yes childish, but hey if i am going to get no sleep watching them for a collision!
So whats the adult way of talking to people who have done no homework and are in rental boats so dont really give a s*^t about hitting other people?
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27-09-2012, 11:48
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Re: Loud music... anchoring too close!
Bear in mind the tender is tied up and locked on deck, so no way of launching it, and ive had a few whiskies
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27-09-2012, 11:57
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Boat: Nassau 42 SV Ceol Mor
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Re: Loud music... anchoring too close!
My vote would be to lose any and all traces of arrogance and be polite. Hail them on the radio, then nicely explain that when the wind shifts with them anchored so close your boats will collide. POLITELY ask them to move a bit to give you a bit of swing room. You might tell them you are expecting bigger winds in the night and they might want to put out more scope. Make it seem as if you are just updating them on new weather info, not telling them how to do it because you know that they know what they are doing. Thank them and wish them a good night.
If they ignore you, pump Michael Jackson's Thriller through your loud hailer. Put it on repeat.
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27-09-2012, 11:58
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Gulfport, MS
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Re: Loud music... anchoring too close!
Just drink more whiskey until it doesn't become a problem anymore.
Frank
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27-09-2012, 12:11
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: UMR mm 283 /winter in Kansas
Boat: Bayliner 3870 41' oal.
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A warning shot across the bow?
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27-09-2012, 12:18
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Boat: Bestevaer.
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Re: Loud music... anchoring too close!
Collisions are surprisingly rare in these sort of conditions. Boats look much closer than they actually are.
If you are concerned the best technique is to move. Anchoring in the dark is quite easy, especially when you have seen the layout of the bay in daylight.
There are some electronic alarms that can help, if you don't move.
An anchor alarm can be set up to wake you when the wind shifts, it when the anchor drags. With an offset alarm you can pick quite precisely the wind direction when the alarm will go off.
If worried about the other boat dragging a wind alarm will wake you when the wind speed picks up.
Have a boat hook, torch, fenders, fog horn and the engine ready to go.
The best defence is to pick anchorages that charter boats don't often overnight.
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27-09-2012, 12:19
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Location: Maryland, USA
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Re: Loud music... anchoring too close!
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Originally Posted by Mimsy
My vote would be to lose any and all traces of arrogance and be polite. Hail them on the radio, then nicely explain that when the wind shifts with them anchored so close your boats will collide. POLITELY ask them to move a bit to give you a bit of swing room. You might tell them you are expecting bigger winds in the night and they might want to put out more scope. Make it seem as if you are just updating them on new weather info, not telling them how to do it because you know that they know what they are doing. Thank them and wish them a good night.
If they ignore you, pump Michael Jackson's Thriller through your loud hailer. Put it on repeat.
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Yeah, in my experience, people will often accept help if the delivery is right. Always worth a try first...
And it's hard to hear, just yelling back and forth, easier to explain the "why" over a radio... or even loud hailer if necessary (and if the sound direction works).
-Chris
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27-09-2012, 12:29
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Location: UK
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Re: Loud music... anchoring too close!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimsy
My vote would be to lose any and all traces of arrogance and be polite. Hail them on the radio, then nicely explain that when the wind shifts with them anchored so close your boats will collide. POLITELY ask them to move a bit to give you a bit of swing room. You might tell them you are expecting bigger winds in the night and they might want to put out more scope. Make it seem as if you are just updating them on new weather info, not telling them how to do it because you know that they know what they are doing. Thank them and wish them a good night.
If they ignore you, pump Michael Jackson's Thriller through your loud hailer. Put it on repeat.
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Now that is very good advice and quite frankly, if it doesn't work then it would be justifiably annoying. (Just realised that a "must have" is a small torpedo ... adding it to my list now).
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27-09-2012, 12:31
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Re: Loud music... anchoring too close!
Rum is the answer!!!!! What was the question?
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27-09-2012, 12:39
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Re: Loud music... anchoring too close!
There is very often a language difficulty that complicates communication, particularly in technical areas that they don't understand in their native tongue.
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27-09-2012, 12:40
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brisbane Australia [until the boats launched]
Boat: 50ft powercat, light,long and low powered
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Re: Loud music... anchoring too close!
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Originally Posted by Mimsy
My vote would be to lose any and all traces of arrogance and be polite. Hail them on the radio,
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You assume they even have the radio on.
Pick anchorages far enough away from where the idiots are is the answer, although that doesn't always work, I have had them come over the top of a 2ft wall of coral to enter a lagoon and drop anchor 50ft from me when I have been 40nm offshore.
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27-09-2012, 13:00
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Location: Marathon Fl.
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Re: Loud music... anchoring too close!
Bright Yellow Banana Hammock, AND RUM.
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27-09-2012, 13:02
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Boat: Nassau 42 SV Ceol Mor
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Re: Loud music... anchoring too close!
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Originally Posted by cat man do
You assume they even have the radio on.
Pick anchorages far enough away from where the idiots are is the answer, although that doesn't always work, I have had them come over the top of a 2ft wall of coral to enter a lagoon and drop anchor 50ft from me when I have been 40nm offshore.
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Loud hail them and ask them to pick up the radio.
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27-09-2012, 13:07
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Location: Brisbane Australia [until the boats launched]
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Re: Loud music... anchoring too close!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimsy
Loud hail them and ask them to pick up the radio.
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Yelling is the best many could do
Loud Hailers is not an item on my high priority list.
Not even close.
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27-09-2012, 13:12
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Location: Sasafra river,MD
Boat: gulfstar ketch 41 Surya
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Re: Loud music... anchoring too close!
Go out on deck, take all your clothes off and stand on the rail on their direction.
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