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Old 11-02-2018, 12:06   #1
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2002 Fountaine Pajot Belize 43

We are considering selling our beautiful and well equipped 2002 Belize 43 in the winter 2018/19. The boat will probably be somewhere between the Bahamas and Martinique by then.

The boat is in excellent condition and very well maintained. We also just bought a new set of sails.

The boat can be delivered anywhere. We are asking 295 k, but are open for negotiations and might also consider trading for a Monohull (38 to 43 ft), with compensatory payment.

The ship is sailing under german flag and the european VAT has been paid.

Here is a link to more information: 2002 Fountaine Pajot Belize 43 sailboat for sale in

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Old 23-02-2018, 02:12   #2
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Re: 2002 Fountaine Pajot Belize 43

How long has it been out of the euro zone?
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Old 14-03-2018, 06:37   #3
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Re: 2002 Fountaine Pajot Belize 43

A bit less than three years.
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Old 14-03-2018, 06:51   #4
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:-) :-)
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Old 14-03-2018, 07:01   #5
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Beautiful Boat!
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Old 17-04-2018, 06:11   #6
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Re: 2002 Fountaine Pajot Belize 43

Still for sale.

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Open for trades (smaller Cat/Mono) with compensatory payment.
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Old 08-05-2018, 13:12   #7
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The boat is back on the market. We consider trades for a smaller cat (like a Lagoon 380 or Privilege 37 …).
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Re: 2002 Fountaine Pajot Belize 43

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How long has it been out of the euro zone?
So, a VAT paid -young- boat would have to repay VAT if it stayed outside the 'zone' for more than 3 years?
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Old 08-05-2018, 16:39   #9
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Re: 2002 Fountaine Pajot Belize 43

yes, that is true. But a friend of mine spoke with customs in Germany and they told him that this rule is not enforced for yachts coming back from a voyage. I never heared of anybody who had to pay the VAT twice.
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Re: 2002 Fountaine Pajot Belize 43

The limit of 3 years applies if the boat has been exported, e.g. bought by a non-EU resident. Re-import to Europe is subject to a new VAT on the current value. If she always belonged to a EU resident there is no VAT to be paid again.
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Re: 2002 Fountaine Pajot Belize 43

>The limit of 3 years applies if the boat has been exported, e.g.
>bought by a non-EU resident. Re-import to Europe is subject
>to a new VAT on the current value. If she always belonged
>to a EU resident there is no VAT to be paid again.

Thanks for both replies.
One more doubt to clear:

If a non-EU resident where to buy a EU VAT-paid+registered boat in a Antilles island under EU-country sovereignty, and kept it there:

1. Does the 3 year out of EU countdown apply for those territories?
1. Can I register it there under my name?
2. If so, will VAT remain valid for Med cruising if sailed there within the 3 years?

Taxes!
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Re: 2002 Fountaine Pajot Belize 43

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The boat is back on the market. We consider trades for a smaller cat (like a Lagoon 380 or Privilege 37 …).
Not to interfere with your ad, but Im curious as to why you would go thru the pain and suffering of swapping boats just to shed a few feet of LOA?
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One more doubt to clear:

If a non-EU resident where to buy a EU VAT-paid+registered boat in a Antilles island under EU-country sovereignty, and kept it there:

1. Does the 3 year out of EU countdown apply for those territories?
1. Can I register it there under my name?
2. If so, will VAT remain valid for Med cruising if sailed there within the 3 years?

Taxes!
I can only tell for French regulations. If the taxes are already paid, this is lost money for a non-resident except if he keeps the boat longer than the temporary import rule : 18 months in the French Antilles, 18 months in the EU, or 36 months in French Polynesia (this is called temporary import, free of taxes). I don't know for other countries.
You have to know that EU tax rules don't apply to many European overseas territories : Channel islands, French overseas departments, Canary islands, mount Athos, Ceuta, Mellila, Helgoland island, Büsigen Territory, islands Aland, Livigno, Campione d’Italia, Italian waters of Lugano Lake !! But... the Azores belong to EU tax zone and have the same VAT and import rules !
Your question [1] : the 3 year countdown you are talking about seems (IMHO) to be related to EU residents who would re-import a boat after a previous export, but many different cases can still occur and you'd better forget this.
Your second question [1] : you can only register locally if you are resident or at least half of the owners are residents, otherwise no. To my knowledge, this is common to all European countries and territories.
Your third question, named [2] : as non-resident, as far as you don't import the boat in whatever European country or territory, you don't care about VAT. But don't forget all Mediterranean countries are not EU : Turkey, Middle East and Northern Africa countries have all their own rules.
Hope this helps !
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Yes quite a bit; and plan discarded. Apologies for hijacking the sale of the fine Belize 43!
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No longer for sale. We will keep it
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