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12-03-2017, 01:31
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2015
Location: PL
Boat: Amel 50
Posts: 86
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Production ''blue water'' boats which have sailed oeans
Can you name any current production boats, which has sailed ocean and maybe be considered as ''blue water cruisers''?
I mean these one which are from shipyards of mass production , not HR, Discovery etc.
I try to choose some boat and would get some names to choose from.
My plan is to buy just hull, and upgrade to my needs (solars, extra tank, desaltor, etc. In fact just hull and rigging (more or less) I need in length of 44-48 feet.
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12-03-2017, 03:12
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Irish Sea
Posts: 1,321
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Re: Production ''blue water'' boats which has sailed oeans
Define "Blue"? ARC-passage vs Antarctica landing are quite different stories. Sydney-Hobart can also add challenge sometimes...
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12-03-2017, 05:58
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#3
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 5,985
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Re: Production ''blue water'' boats which has sailed oeans
Any production boat will cross oceans, hell a paddle board just crossed the Atlantic. Tons of production boats cross in the ARC but in our experience it's one of the easiest oceans to cross. Maybe cross over to NZ on a regular basis and you might be looking at boat choices differently.
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12-03-2017, 06:09
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,822
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Re: Production ''blue water'' boats which has sailed oeans
What about seas?
My Beneteau has done all the worlds oceans except the Southern Ocean but the crookest weather has been in the seas: the Mediterranean got a tad tricky for a bit and the Caribbean sea sure has had a few squalls that pushed the boat around, the Red Sea wasn't too bad if you don't mind 1,600 nms on the nose.
So if you can clearly define if you want one that can do oceans and seas, or just oceans, or seas by themselves.
Thanks.
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12-03-2017, 06:26
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,413
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Re: Production ''blue water'' boats which has sailed oeans
Probably a fair number of them have. An offhshore boat is also a matter of how you outfit it. Shiva was a production Contest 36s... but not set up for ocean passages when I bought h r new... nor for live aboard cruising. I spend 4-5 years upgrading the boat and she was fine in a bunch of trips too and from the Caribbean. I don't think the model was marketed as an "offshore" or blue water boat, but it was built to Lloyd's specs. And I doubt that comes off the assembly line is ready for ocean work.
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12-03-2017, 09:25
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sarasota
Boat: 37 Tayana Pilot House
Posts: 92
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Re: Production ''blue water'' boats which has sailed oeans
Tayana, 37, over 500 built,, sailed all corners of the world. Yes I own one.
Like someone said , many, many types of boats, have sailed oceans. Pick weather, prepare best you can, pray and go.
Worked for Bligh, Jones, Hornblower, Slocum, Tristan Jones, on and on and on.
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12-03-2017, 09:43
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#7
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,822
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Re: Production ''blue water'' boats which has sailed oeans
Quote:
Originally Posted by navysurfer
Worked for Bligh, Jones, Hornblower, Slocum, Tristan Jones, on and on and on.
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Hornblower. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
You funny person
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12-03-2017, 10:09
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Arizona/Rhode Island
Boat: Swan 432
Posts: 820
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Re: Production ''blue water'' boats which has sailed oeans
1. What is your sailing experience?
2. How many people will be on the boat?
3. What is your budget?
4. Exactly where do you plan on sailing?
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12-03-2017, 10:29
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: La Paz, Mexico
Boat: 1978 Hudson Force 50 Ketch
Posts: 3,920
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Re: Production ''blue water'' boats which has sailed oeans
They all have....it's not the Boat...it's the Capt and Crew.
If I had a dollar for every "Blue Water Boat Thread" I could stay longer in La Paz, Mexico where I'm now at watching all these production boats that have cruised the world, when they couldn't.
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Cruise RO & Schenker Water Makers
Technautics CoolBlue Refrigeration
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12-03-2017, 10:54
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ
Boat: Seaward 25
Posts: 294
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Re: Production ''blue water'' boats which has sailed oeans
The biggest advantage that I have found for a true "Blue Water" boat versus a production boat is not having to find a place to store all of that extra money you will have if you go with a production boat.
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12-03-2017, 10:56
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Dallas, Texas
Boat: Valiant 42
Posts: 36
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Re: Production ''blue water'' boats which has sailed oeans
Valiant Yachts built several hundred yachts ranging from 40-50 feet. they stopped building in 2011 due to owners age/health.These vessels have travelled all the oceans.
Mike
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12-03-2017, 11:45
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: ashore in So Calif.
Boat: No more boat (my medical, not the boat's)
Posts: 1,453
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Re: Production ''blue water'' boats which has sailed oeans
So many responses, so few answers. Key words: correct production, have sailed ocean, maybe be considered blue water cruisers, mass production, 44-48 feet, just hull and rigging. These key words are from the OP post.
I do not know the person, but I will add the statement that I think he/she wants to purchase new, and possibly intended for his own completion, perhaps as Westsails and Dreadnought 32s were back in the day. Makes it a lot tougher, does it not?
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12-03-2017, 12:25
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Vienna, Austria
Boat: Vagabond 47
Posts: 928
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Re: Production ''blue water'' boats which has sailed oeans
One of the comments nailed it to the point. It's man noch machine.
Means if you are the one that can manage a boat = gotta knew every bloody screw on your boat, beeing able to repair (sew) your sails,do your woodworks, plumbing and the engines - you would know which boat you want.
Long keel, Schooner or Ketch, preferably steel (when it is perfect made) aluminium and GRP
GRP means for me hull thickness below water line 1 inch and above 1/2 inches
Engine: No turbo, rpms max 1.800
Electrics: just simple metal switches, glass fuses and so on.
So now tell me which boats in mass production qualify for this?
They are all made primary for coastal charter cruising. Hull thickness below 6 mm. Yes they stand a circumnav + gales and more - of course but then their hull is simply cracked. You wont see that at first glance but the GRP is always working and by tim is loosing it's elastics.
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12-03-2017, 12:33
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Toronto on
Boat: Catalina 30
Posts: 46
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Re: Production ''blue water'' boats which has sailed oeans
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12-03-2017, 13:05
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#15
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2015
Location: PL
Boat: Amel 50
Posts: 86
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Re: Production ''blue water'' boats which has sailed oeans
Just to add:
sailing between equators (more or less) not going far N/S.
4-6 people on boat.
As mentioned I need some time to prepare the boat for slow crusing, so I have some time.So far sailed areas is Baltic, Atlantic and Med.
Budget 250-300k
Boat avaliable at EU market.
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