Coastguard - fake news "rescue"

[DumnMad]

I often see rescue organisations claiming a rescue when all they are doing is giving someone a hand.
He asked for a tow and someone calls coastguard.
We had friends who took 4 months to do what they thought would be 3 months at sea and the officials got their knickers in a knot because they had forced our friends to give an expected arrival date. They were never in difficulty just averaging 3 knots instead of 4 knots.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americ...-homemade-boat

[Polux]

the opposite is more times true: rescues that are hard to understand.

Look at this one, two delivery skippers sailing a boat to Madeira and call for a rescue at 80nm offshore the continental Portuguese coast.

They were well, the sea, contrary to what they said was better than what is was to be expected to this time of the year, the boat even had a wind vane....it seems that the only thing that was out of service was the engine.

It seems they were delivery skippers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwO7mRlBBUg

[boatman61]

The problem is any and everyone with an RYA Offshore Yacht Master ticket thinks they can be a delivery skipper.. then they lose sight of land for the first time and the anus starts to pucker.. a small problem and the sphincter gives way..
I've seen big men crumble out there..
That was.. from what you posted.. an easily managed situation if all was sound on the boat.. and just no engine.. head NE under sail would have seen them on the Algarve coast the following morning.
Sea's are slight.. maybe 1 or 2metres at the most and looks like maybe F4 possibly F5.. hard to tell from the chopper..
Wannabe's like that give us a bad name..

[Benz]

Originally Posted by DumnMad

I often see rescue organisations claiming a rescue when all they are doing is giving someone a hand.
He asked for a tow and someone calls coastguard.
We had friends who took 4 months to do what they thought would be 3 months at sea and the officials got their knickers in a knot because they had forced our friends to give an expected arrival date. They were never in difficulty just averaging 3 knots instead of 4 knots.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americ...-homemade-boat

That's why I never tell people where I'm going or when I expect to arrive. As if sailing could have a rigid schedule! I trained my family early on, and my wife's family (though that was harder), to just be grateful when we did check in, but not to expect if for months on end.
Nothing more embarrassing than having a rescue launched because you decided to detour elsewhere for a couple days.

[boatman61]

Honestly..???

[Paul L]

Originally Posted by DumnMad

I often see rescue organisations claiming a rescue when all they are doing is giving someone a hand.
He asked for a tow and someone calls coastguard.
We had friends who took 4 months to do what they thought would be 3 months at sea and the officials got their knickers in a knot because they had forced our friends to give an expected arrival date. They were never in difficulty just averaging 3 knots instead of 4 knots.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americ...-homemade-boat

I know 'fake news' is the popular saying of the times, but I don't understand what is fake about this. An offshore boat asks for a tow. It gets written up as a rescue. Doesn't seem that when you list the number of rescues a particular CG station does per year this one shouldn't be counted in the list.

[Benz]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Honestly..???

Sure. Do you file dumb "float plans"? Is anything more ridiculous?

[SV DestinyAscen]

Originally Posted by Paul L

I know 'fake news' is the popular saying of the times, but I don't understand what is fake about this. An offshore boat asks for a tow. It gets written up as a rescue. Doesn't seem that when you list the number of rescues a particular CG station does per year this one shouldn't be counted in the list.

And what pathetic bruised ego the recipient of the tow may feel, the rescue services, whether funded or volunteer - need to document their achievements to get more support and not get chalked down as being redundant.

If you needed help - you needed help.

[DumnMad]

Originally Posted by Paul L

I know 'fake news' is the popular saying of the times, but I don't understand what is fake about this. An offshore boat asks for a tow. It gets written up as a rescue. Doesn't seem that when you list the number of rescues a particular CG station does per year this one shouldn't be counted in the list.

Yes I suppose it will be counted on the list and used to promote the organisation. Thats where the deception lies. I've seen lists which include such 'helping hand' situations given same ranking of a dangerous lifesaving rescue.
It doen't seem right.

[Paul L]

Originally Posted by DumnMad

Yes I suppose it will be counted on the list and used to promote the organisation. Thats where the deception lies. I've seen lists which include such 'helping hand' situations given same ranking of a dangerous lifesaving rescue.
It doen't seem right.

Agreed, it can be pretty self serving. I just get my hackles up on the 'fake news' thing, as in my view it undermines free press which undermines democracy. The more the phrase is used the more 'normal' it becomes.

[Stu Jackson]

Originally Posted by Benz

Sure. Do you file dumb "float plans"? Is anything more ridiculous?

Agreed. You may have missed boatman's three or four

I prefer to write about what I have experienced, rather than what I plan to do. Until completed, it ain't finished. Or something like that.

I do this for all jaunts, small or large. Compared to most of you, mine are rather small, but the same applies.

[boatman61]

[QUOTE=Benz;2548755]Sure. Do you file dumb "float plans"? Is anything more ridiculous?[/]

Nope.!!! I just say "Follow the Spot"

[seandepagnier]

Originally Posted by DumnMad

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americ...-homemade-boat

I am jealous of this boat.

[IslandHopper]

Originally Posted by boat_alexandra

I am jealous of this boat.

I think you and he may get on very well....

Monsoon Dervish sailing a Chinese junk

[Polux]

Originally Posted by boatman61

The problem is any and everyone with an RYA Offshore Yacht Master ticket thinks they can be a delivery skipper.. then they lose sight of land for the first time and the anus starts to pucker.. a small problem and the sphincter gives way..
I've seen big men crumble out there..
That was.. from what you posted.. an easily managed situation if all was sound on the boat.. and just no engine.. head NE under sail would have seen them on the Algarve coast the following morning.
Sea's are slight.. maybe 1 or 2metres at the most and looks like maybe F4 possibly F5.. hard to tell from the chopper..
Wannabe's like that give us a bad name..

Yes there is a plague of bad delivery skippers. Here you have the opposed situation, guys that are taking risks with somebody's boat to earn some fast money and not lose time waiting for acceptable conditions to go out. Just some days ago in Italy:

https://www.facebook.com/maurizio.la...1089177609320/

This was the final result:

https://www.facebook.com/portoromano...0951762629125/