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Old 17-09-2018, 13:56   #16
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

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The only sailors I've heard that employed a sculling oar were the Pardeys on their engineless 27-foot wooden sailboat.

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Old 17-09-2018, 14:05   #17
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

Thereís a 30-foot sailboat here in our marina that uses a yuloh. At my last marina home another fellow I knew was seriously looking at building one (I donít know if he ever did).

Certainly they arenít very common, but they are around.

I would love to build one for our boat, but Iím not talented enough, and I have my doubts about the viability of one on my 37í, 15 ton boat.
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

Now my boat is a lot less, at 4 tons or so, but I was somewhat surprised that once the boat gets moving, the inertia works really well. My suspicion is that the 15 tons of Rafiki would take a while to get moving but I bet you could get it up to a walking speed. I have friend with a Rafiki 37 and he was very intrigued by my oars, but his freeboard just doesn't make it workable. I suspect that would make it tough for the yuloh too, but it might be worth a look. I am definitely not able to give up my engine in my area, but I must say, having my oars available has been kinda fun. A couple of times, sailing back in to my slip I just didn't want to fire up the engine and I didn't have QUITE enough inertia to get me to the slip and it only takes me 30 seconds (I timed it) to pull out and place both locks and then slide the oars in. And sometimes all you need is to kick the stern around a bit to get her pointed right, or if you are coming in too fast holding both oars and dragging can do the trick (though, again, I am only slowing down 4 tons.) Once last summer I was leaving an anchorage before dawn and I didn't want to wake the neighbors or stink up the neighborhood, so I employed the oars to meander out of the anchorage in the still air. It was really nice! Once clear of the anchorage I let the sails take over with whatever breath there was for a while.. then, I fired up the engine and motored for 3 hours before the wind finally came up! Still, be it yuloh or oars, you get more options which can be handy, if you have the space to stow them well and a low enough freeboard.
Now, against a breeze or a current? No I sure wouldn't bet on that. Although I did try it once in an anchorage that was in the wind shadow of a pretty good breeze. Even the gusts that swirled around the cliffs challenged what little horsepower I could employ, but I did manage to get it out of the anchorage clear of other boats to where I could easily raise the sails and take off.
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

Very true Don. In fact, weíve successfully sculled our way around anchorages and marinas using the rudder. As long as there is no countering force (wind or current), itís not hard to get my 15 tons moving fairly well.

Maybe I should get serious about this project. I think I could build a bracket set off my boomkin. I have no idea how to build the oar ó it would have to be quite large. And Iím not sure where Iíd store it Ö but, hmmmmm.
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

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I'll be looking forward to your photo spread in Bodybuilders Magazine! Perhaps you'll become Canada's answer to the aging Schwarzenegger sculling your Rafiki in the fiords of Newfoundland. Sends some photos. Here's a couple admirers. Best, Rognvald
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

Oh I don't know, when you see those videos of folks sculling sampans around in southeast Asian ports... they don't look too burly
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Oh I don't know, when you see those videos of folks sculling sampans around in southeast Asian ports... they don't look too burly

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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

Well I was thinking of something more like:
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

Hello all! Sorry for late reply, been a busy week.

Interesting discussion this, the opinions seems quite divided.

I agree the yuloh would not be a solution for a high displacement sailboat that wants to make way against a 4 knot current. However, In such circumstances, I see the yuloh more as an complement than a replacement to the engine. There will always exist situations where it could be handy. As a spare rudder perhaps?

However, for the smaller boats or more light deplaced, especially the ones utilizing a outboarder for auxiliary power, I believe the yuloh would be a great substitution. It is fail-safe, low cost, zero maintenance. Its possible to navigate closer to shore without worrying as much of hitting ground. Its not as dangerous to use in MOB/Swim situations.

And its fun! I like "to move it" and sailing engineless makes one extra proud of being a sailor.
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Re: Why isn't it possible to buy from the market a Yuloh / Sculling Oar?

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Yeah the cost thing, even a regular aluminum whitewater 11 or 12' oar will be a $100, and as you may know, the shaft of a yuloh very long and often bent, so it makes sense that it would need to be custom made to each boat, given that freeboard is the primary limiting factor. I could see a carpenter specializing in yulohs perhaps. I'd sure love to get a quote from a good one! Stowage of the yuloh is also an issue. I am lucky with my boat. I have 11 foot oars and they stow inside well because I happen to have the hatch under the cockpit open to the salon and the oars can be stowed there when not on deck (literally and figuratively.) A large yuloh with a bent shaft would be cumbersome at best on many modern boats unless it could be broken down. These threads may be of interest too:
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Yuloh, sweeps and getting into the dock without a motor.

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Thank you Don for the thoughts, it sure is an issue storing and selling a yuloh if it would be constructed without the option of breaking it down. Perhaps its possible? Being on my last year in Innovation engineering Uni, if my project group permits, I will look into this.

What kind of freeboard would be optimal for the yuloh do you think? Thanks for all the links! I will get right to it.
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I have friend with a Rafiki 37 and he was very intrigued by my oars, but his freeboard just doesn't make it workable. I suspect that would make it tough for the yuloh too, but it might be worth a look.
Thanks Don, OK. Is it because the freeboard is too high? What if one builds a yuloh that works with a greater angle in relation to the surface of the sea?
Doing that, the oar don't need to be just as long and the freeboard problem becomes less of an issue. What do you think?

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I am definitely not able to give up my engine in my area, but I must say, having my oars available has been kinda fun. A couple of times, sailing back in to my slip I just didn't want to fire up the engine and I didn't have QUITE enough inertia to get me to the slip and it only takes me 30 seconds (I timed it) to pull out and place both locks and then slide the oars in. And sometimes all you need is to kick the stern around a bit to get her pointed right, or if you are coming in too fast holding both oars and dragging can do the trick (though, again, I am only slowing down 4 tons.) Once last summer I was leaving an anchorage before dawn and I didn't want to wake the neighbors or stink up the neighborhood, so I employed the oars to meander out of the anchorage in the still air. It was really nice! Once clear of the anchorage I let the sails take over with whatever breath there was for a while.. then, I fired up the engine and motored for 3 hours before the wind finally came up! Still, be it yuloh or oars, you get more options which can be handy, if you have the space to stow them well and a low enough freeboard.
Yes I think so too! Boating should be fun! , and that's also really a plus, being able to not disturb your neighbors at nightfall!
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