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10-01-2016, 12:22
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ithaca, NY
Boat: Pearson Wanderer 30
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Re: Alberg 30 refit/recoring
Ah, another Plastic Classic refugee. Good to see this thread over here where it will get more exposure.
Great work so far on the boat!
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25-01-2016, 18:16
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Norfolk
Boat: Sea Sprite 34
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Re: Alberg 30 refit/recoring
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25-01-2016, 19:10
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Channel Islands, CA
Boat: 1962 Columbia 29 MK 1 #37
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Re: Alberg 30 refit/recoring
Well I definitely understand your passion for a classic plastic and it is not crazy. How much would you expect to pay for that boat if it were built today? As it so happens I am preparing to tear into my mast support too on my Columbia 29 as, after 54 years, it needs it, but not desperately. Keep us posted. I'd like to see a classic plastic social group here, shall we start one?
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1962 Columbia 29 MKI #37
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25-01-2016, 19:20
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: VA, boat: Deale, MD
Boat: 1981 Nor'sea 27
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Re: Alberg 30 refit/recoring
You certainly have dug yourself into quite a project.
Good thing you're taking care of the issues and doing it right the first time around is better then having to repair a quick-fix later.
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26-01-2016, 06:14
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Registered User
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Location: Norfolk
Boat: Sea Sprite 34
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Re: Alberg 30 refit/recoring
Guys, Thank you for the comments. I have dug myself neck deep into this project but like I've said before...sorta enjoy it...it's sorta therapeutic. I know what I repair now will be good to go for as long as I'm alive.
This boat and many like it have lasted 40+ years. I believe like a classic mustang these old boats are worth the time, money and effort put into maintaining them. Sure its not for everyone but really like my old classic design. I like it's simplicity.
And I cannot afford a new 30 ft sailboat, ~130k, or something like that....what I can afford is a place ic classic and a few thousand dollars spread out over time.
Thanks again
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26-01-2016, 09:34
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Re: Alberg 30 refit/recoring
You are putting time and money into a boat with good bones. Alberg designs are beautiful and sail well(maybe not fast) and are worth restoring, if they are not too far gone. Keep us posted. Best of Luck. ____Grant.
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26-01-2016, 11:39
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Channel Islands, CA
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Re: Alberg 30 refit/recoring
It would be hard to define a better "deal" in the sailing world these days than a classic from the 50s, 60s and early 70s, (which is how I could afford to have one.) Some are sold for nothing and yet, put 4 or 5k and a little sweat into them and you have a great cruiser. A pocket cruiser for pocket change (sort of), or if you really want to make it extra beautiful you might put 10k into it. They are simple, strong, sea-worthy, sea-kindly... with a little looking at Minney's or Bacon sails you can get perfectly good used sails; craigslist and Amazon can get you lots of other stuff for not too much and most everything can be done by the owner. It is the only way the middle class can afford to get into cruising these days... Pearson Tritons, Vanguards, Ariels, Bristol 30 and 27, Columbia 24, 26 (mk1) and 29, Alberg 30, Albin Vega.. who have I missed? There are many others of course, and those like the Cape dories and the Alberg 35, Pearson Rhodes 41, but I think they may be out of reach for the typical middle-class budget. There must be a thread on this somewhere already, maybe "great little cruising boats for under $15K"? Whadya think Steady?
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1962 Columbia 29 MKI #37
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26-01-2016, 12:38
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Port Credit Ontario, Canada
Boat: 1978 Alberg 30
Posts: 217
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Re: Alberg 30 refit/recoring
We own a 1978 Alberg 30. They might not be the rite boat for everyone but they are one of the best classics out there. We love ours, I would have no problem talking it around the world.
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26-01-2016, 12:53
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Join Date: Jun 2015
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Re: Alberg 30 refit/recoring
My next boat could be an Alberg 30 that needs work. Kind of waiting for the current owner to give up on it. Have a feeling the price may not be realistic though. Current owner is an odd one!
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26-01-2016, 13:26
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Channel Islands, CA
Boat: 1962 Columbia 29 MK 1 #37
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Re: Alberg 30 refit/recoring
Quote:
Originally Posted by thomm225
You really oughta checkout Bacon Sails in Annapolis. A guy at our dock got a great deal on a really good set of sails.
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Last year I got a main made for a boat like mine that was nearly new from Bacon, very inexpensive. Really you could probably find a very good main and a jib and genoa for around $1800. There is a place in Texas too, but I can't recall the name right now.
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26-01-2016, 19:27
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Wherever the boat is
Boat: Cape Dory 33
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Re: Alberg 30 refit/recoring
We are in the process of restoring a 1982 Cape Dory 33 that had been abandoned and neglected for 6 years. She was a basket case, to be honest we grossly under estimated how much time and money it was going to cost. A lot of people question our sanity. For what we're putting into her we could have had something newer that wouldn't have eaten 3 years of our lives in the boat yard. Worst part is, this isn't the first time we've done this to save a plastic classic. (Hope it is the last though.) I guess what I'm trying to say is, we understand. Carry on.
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27-01-2016, 16:55
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Norfolk
Boat: Sea Sprite 34
Posts: 451
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Re: Alberg 30 refit/recoring
Don,
You are correct about these older boats being affordable for the "middle" class.... not exactly sure what that is anymore. I like to call it the honest hard working class...you know the guy and gals that get **** done and for some odd reason are barely get paid a wage to get by anymore.
I will probably have close to 30k in my boat when I am finished with refit...but that will include a new to me 170hr Beta diesel, diesel installation, new sails, hatch and portlight upgrades, structural upgrades and a fresh coat of paint...and I will have a classic that will look like a proper boat.....not a clorox bottle with a steering wheel! It won't be the fastest boat but it might be the sturdiest 30fter at the marina. And it will be paid for!
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28-01-2016, 11:01
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Norfolk
Boat: Sea Sprite 34
Posts: 451
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Re: Alberg 30 refit/recoring
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29-01-2016, 17:02
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Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Channel Islands, CA
Boat: 1962 Columbia 29 MK 1 #37
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Re: Alberg 30 refit/recoring
You probably know by now, but I think you will find an aluminum beam in there in the mast support. I think your model, being later, has that. I did not see any evidence of the deck flexing or compression from the mast loading, which is good. Did you see some earlier? And how is the post and bulkhead down at the hull joint, any rot? My mast support spans the bulkheads equally and it does show some movement so mine is due. You are fortunate to have the doorway offset and more of the load over the post to port. I have some photos of a mast support for a Triton that I think I will emulate. I think it may be a good idea to add posts on either side to carry the load down to the hull and give the bulkheads extra rigidity. I am planning to get a couple of pieces of stainless flat stock to sandwich some oak and then face with mahogany to span and through-bolt on the bulkheads for mine... but I have yet to begin! Just for reference, here are a couple shots of a Triton solution: and then one of my mast support, which the previous owner tried to beef up without success. If you need more moral support there are a few of us Columbia 29 owners on here who share our progress in bringing some other good ol' boats back to life. You really have a great old boat there, great design, a real classic!
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