Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 14-02-2019, 01:55   #1
Registered User
 
Sojourner's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: On the boat!
Boat: SY Wake: 53' Amel Super Maramu
Posts: 398
Should I change Perkins Prima M80T to Volvo Penta D3??

So working on solving my rebuilt Perkins white smoke issues, I have been offered a Volvo Penta D3 130-something horsepower engine for a very very good price. It comes from a friend who I trust 1000% who is swapping it out for a brand new Yanmar, not because of faults but because he wants a new engine. I originally rejected this offer because I read many reports of the Volvos being electrronic nightmares, common rail as well, but this particular engine has been running without fault for 2 or 3000 hours now. Does that mean it is one of the "good" ones, that I could trust not to strand me with a proprietary electrical issue only a Volvo guy with a black briefcase can fix?? The engine would increase my horses from 80 to 130ish, the C-drive is upgraded already to handle it on my boat, and the price is about 3k euros.

What would you do? How much can you trust the D3 volvos????
__________________

__________________
3 cats, 3 queers, endless wake, endless love!
https://www.facebook.com/anendlesswake/
https://anendlesswake.com/
Sojourner is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 14-02-2019, 02:12   #2
Registered User
 
Sojourner's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: On the boat!
Boat: SY Wake: 53' Amel Super Maramu
Posts: 398
Re: Should I change Perkins Prima M80T to Volvo Penta D3??

My thoughts would be, get the D3, remove the perkins and on the bench get it properly properly fixed and stored. I use the D3 around the Med for 2 years, there are plenty of penta techs hanging from the trees here if I get into trouble with it, and can have the perkins reinstalled at the end of the season. If the D3 is working great, then I can either sell the perkins or have it as a full backup engine, or one to install in 6000 hours more when the D3 runs out of life.....
__________________

__________________
3 cats, 3 queers, endless wake, endless love!
https://www.facebook.com/anendlesswake/
https://anendlesswake.com/
Sojourner is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 16-02-2019, 18:58   #3
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 44
Re: Should I change Perkins Prima M80T to Volvo Penta D3??

Installing the D3 VP might turn out to be problematic and very expensive. Mating the existing driveline ( C drive) to the D3 could be an issue and the volvo footprint is unlikely to match the Prima pattern on the beds. You already know that common rail technology is not the best choice for recreational and cruising sailboats so unless you plan to cruise within visual range of a VP dealership it might be wise to rethink the engine swap. The other argument against the repower is the astonishing price of the VP spare parts for the common rail system, do a search on replacement costs for injectors or high pressure fuel pump and brace yourself for the visits by the "guy with the black briefcase" that you mentioned, I seriously doubt you'll reach your suggested 6,000 hrs without meeting him.......Often!!
skipperpete is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 16-02-2019, 20:55   #4
registered user
 
HankOnthewater's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: West Australia
Boat: plastic production yacht, suitable for deep blue water ;)
Posts: 486
Re: Should I change Perkins Prima M80T to Volvo Penta D3??

A difficult question to answer from a distance. My short answer from the other side of the world: I would not.
But in considering the swap, a 1st additional question: why is an allegedly perfectly good engine removed? 2nd question: if that Volvo owner was happy with the brand why is he not replacing that with another Volvo? Does not make sense (to me).
Third question... do you really need the 130 HP the Volvo has to offer?
I am in the camp of simple engines, and Volvo is not.
If you were to replace, look at the Beta range:https://betamarine.co.uk/portfolio-item/beta-90t/
Kubota based, reliable..... but more than the E3k (where is the euro sign?) for the Volvo.
Such Beta engine would outlast your ownership and likely the next few owners.
Last question: why can't you get the Perkins in proper working order? Disclaimer: I am a little biased towards Perkins as I have two.
__________________
Wishing you all sunny skies above, clear water below, gentle winds behind and a safe port ahead,
and when coming this way check http://www.cruiserswiki.org/wiki/Albany,_Australia
HankOnthewater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-02-2019, 04:56   #5
registered user
 
HankOnthewater's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: West Australia
Boat: plastic production yacht, suitable for deep blue water ;)
Posts: 486
Re: Should I change Perkins Prima M80T to Volvo Penta D3??

Why is it that some owners with Volvo change out to Yanmar?
https://sailing4ever.com/en/removal-...1Jr9UAyj7_EUlI
__________________
Wishing you all sunny skies above, clear water below, gentle winds behind and a safe port ahead,
and when coming this way check http://www.cruiserswiki.org/wiki/Albany,_Australia
HankOnthewater is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
penta, perkins, volvo

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
For Sale: Complete Running Perkins Prima M80T Turbo Diesel Engine w/Transmission svJuggernaut Classifieds Archive 4 10-10-2014 03:09
Volvo Penta md2040D - oil change / oil type? kjames Engines and Propulsion Systems 5 06-12-2012 04:05
Engine equivalencies - Perkins Prima M80T and Volvo TMD22P? capesailtown Engines and Propulsion Systems 0 24-06-2012 17:10
For Sale: Used Perkins M80T Diesel hivaroa Classifieds Archive 1 06-04-2012 10:16
Perkins Prima / Volvo MD22 Timing Aegean sailor Engines and Propulsion Systems 4 25-03-2010 21:17



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:56.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.