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18-08-2008, 09:30
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#46
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amstelveen Netherlands
Boat: FastCat 445 Green Motion
Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keegan
The kithen looks very nice. Lots of space on top the stove.
Lots of room in that cat.
Nice you even supply a magazine rack for long sits in the toilet
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Thanks for the compliment Keegan , the magazine rack is very important
Have a great day
Gideon
p.s. here is the first side drawing of the new 60 ft FastCat
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18-08-2008, 12:32
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#47
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 685
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Fastcat435:
When was Andreas fastcat launched/completed. Looks very modern and nice. The speedpics looks little scary but very fun....Is the pics from Andreas boat? I should remove the stripes on the side...buts thats my..
I think you should build a 455, 525 and sail faster than the Gunboat. And that in a public race, or in a big sailmagazine. And that with witnesses so people belive the speed of fastcats.
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18-08-2008, 12:43
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#48
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: W Florida
Boat: Still have the 33yo Jon boat. But now a CATAMARAN. Nice little 18' Bay Cat.
Posts: 7,086
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Did your wife put that board on that bunk or is that some sort of European thing?
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18-08-2008, 12:50
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#49
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 685
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Therapy
Did your wife put that board on that bunk or is that some sort of European thing?
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18-08-2008, 12:59
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#50
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: W Florida
Boat: Still have the 33yo Jon boat. But now a CATAMARAN. Nice little 18' Bay Cat.
Posts: 7,086
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freetime
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Look at the first pic of the cabin.
I copied the Http but the manager said it was an invalid address.
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18-08-2008, 13:09
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#51
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 685
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Therapy
Look at the first pic of the cabin.
I copied the Http but the manager said it was an invalid address.
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It´s my english....i found it at last...
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18-08-2008, 13:15
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#52
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 483
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It's for hurdling or jumping
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19-08-2008, 01:23
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#53
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amstelveen Netherlands
Boat: FastCat 445 Green Motion
Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Therapy
Did your wife put that board on that bunk or is that some sort of European thing?
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I actually placed that board so I do not have to tell my wife I have a head ache !!!
No we supplied this for crew or kids on board so they do not have to be in love !!
It is removable see picture
we do not supply it anymore because of the weight saving of 7 kilo
Greetings
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19-08-2008, 01:31
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#54
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amstelveen Netherlands
Boat: FastCat 445 Green Motion
Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freetime
Fastcat435:
When was Andreas fastcat launched/completed. Looks very modern and nice. The speedpics looks little scary but very fun....Is the pics from Andreas boat? I should remove the stripes on the side...buts thats my..
I think you should build a 455, 525 and sail faster than the Gunboat. And that in a public race, or in a big sailmagazine. And that with witnesses so people belive the speed of fastcats.
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Andreas FastCat 435 , the prototype was launched on December 19 2004 in Durban and we arrived in Miami just in time to prepare for the boat show on February 8 - 2005
We do different striping now or no striping at all. All speeds above 16 or 17 knots are a bit scary unless the water is really flat. We do not build a racer , just a performance oriented cruising catamaran where the emphasis is placed on space, comfort and safety: speed is the 4th item on the list of importance.
I expect that a Gunboat would win a race like that since their hulls are even narrower than ours but I would not know the outcome .
The comparising would be odd since the price of a Gunboat 48 is around 1.8 million USD while the FastCat 435 is less than half of that
Greetings
Gideon
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19-08-2008, 02:08
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#55
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 685
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Bad comparising, ok. But you must do some comparing on water with other boats in same class(competitors), and that in some kind of race or a week together with other catamarans. And make a video, or in a magazine.... Until then we are waiting for some reports from Andreas. I belive that the fastcat is fast, and i like the layout and your ideas so atleast this forum need independent comments about fastcats. A few word from Gludy and from Andreas is not enough to silence the critical peoples.... Whish boat was it Gludy test sailed?
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19-08-2008, 02:12
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#56
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Amstelveen Netherlands
Boat: FastCat 445 Green Motion
Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freetime
Bad comparising, ok. But you must do some comparing on water with other boats in same class(competitors), and that in some kind of race or a week together with other catamarans. And make a video, or in a magazine.... Until then we are waiting for some reports from Andreas. I belive that the fastcat is fast, and i like the layout and your ideas so atleast this forum need independent comments about fastcats. A few word from Gludy and from Andreas is not enough to silence the critical peoples.... Whish boat was it Gludy test sailed?
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Just come and sail if you are interested , more reports will come out shortly since hull number 3 , 4 are delivered and 5 , 6 and 7 will be delivered in the next 6 months .
Paul ( Gludy ) has been on African Love , hull number 2 or the first production FastCat and since that FastCat we have lost 2000 kilo in weight or 30 % less weight.
Greetings
Gideon
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19-08-2008, 02:20
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#57
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 685
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fastcat435
Just come and sail if you are interested , more reports will come out shortly since hull number 3 , 4 are delivered and 5 , 6 and 7 will be delivered in the next 6 months .
Paul ( Gludy ) has been on African Love , hull number 2 or the first production FastCat and since that FastCat we have lost 2000 kilo in weight or 30 % less weight.
Greetings
Gideon
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Is African Love a 455?
Thanks for the offer... I am very interested but my wallet does not contain so much right now.
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19-08-2008, 02:22
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#58
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Denmark
Boat: FP Tobago 35
Posts: 721
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fastcat435
Just come and sail if you are interested , more reports will come out shortly since hull number 3 , 4 are delivered and 5 , 6 and 7 will be delivered in the next 6 months .
Gideon
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Isn't Butterfly hull number 4?
See the blog here: of Butterfly and Barnacle
It doesn't sound as though they have taken delivery, but maybe the blog isn't updated.
Alan
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19-08-2008, 02:39
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#59
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Brecon, Wales
Boat: St Francis 50 on order
Posts: 269
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I was amazed at two things about that blog.
The first is that the new boat has had to go back to the yard and is delayed so much that they have had to extend their 3 month visa for another 3 months.
The second is that the speeds achieved in the test sails in light winds are worse than I had with the much heavier St Francis.
I was once in a position were my delivered new boat was so bad that it spent 6 months on the builders pontoon after delivery before it could escape ..... it later fell to bits and I had a refund after a big battle ........ so I can understand the positive attitude that Butterfly's owners are putting onto the situation ....it's almost like Stockholm syndrome - I did just that positive spin for 6 months ...... I frankly have a lot of empathy for them.
Gideon whilst you invite people for a test sail you should really point out your stated policy, which is not to sail in anything more than an f5.
I am truly baffled by the mystery of a cat that on paper should fly but needed engines to tack in over 20 knots of wind, which was the case in my test sail ...... it does not make sense.
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19-08-2008, 02:42
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#60
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Brecon, Wales
Boat: St Francis 50 on order
Posts: 269
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NordicCat
No this makes it clear that the boat has not been delivered as yet.
"Yesterday, arranged for an independent full boat inspection. Something we’ve always planned to do. To buy a boat, new or second-hand, and NOT have a thorough, properly-conducted, independent inspection before taking delivery of her, is just crazy. I guess there will be some circumstances where the build and state of the boat are already known, but even so, we like to sleep easy in our cabins "
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