Typical Atlantic crossing times

[Foozinator]

I know that there can be a big variation between Atlantic crossings, especially with variable weather. I just want to see what a typical crossing could be with your typical 40-43 foot cat.

The main reason I'm interested is that I'm planning on working from the boat, and satellite internet isn't really practical (yet).

I've seen crossings in the 18-21 day range, which would mean a leave of absence. That said, am I reading these 2011 ARC results correctly? Down in the multihull section is a pair of Lagoon 420s that made the crossing in 9 1/2 days.

Maybe I'm reading it wrong or maybe the winds were crazy in 2011. My question is: is a sub 2-week crossing possible, assuming you pick a good time of the season (and the winds are in your favor)?

[boatman61]

That's a 12.5kt average.. its possible I guess.

[barnakiel]

I think 3 weeks is about average. I think the distribution is skewed towards shorter times though.

Mind Madeira to Barbadoss is way a different distance than Mindelho to Barbados (e.g.) and so the times will vary too, respectively.

Cheers,
b.

[Factor]

Originally Posted by boatman61

That's a 12.5kt average.. its possible I guess.

So is me marrying a model, not very likely though

[SV DestinyAscen]

Originally Posted by Factor

So is me marrying a model, not very likely though

Hahaha nice one

I'd say a rough estimate of 100-150 miles per 24 hr period is a good conservative place to think about and start. If you have good settled trades sure you can go faster but would you and your crew do that or reef down for the night?

[Polux]

Originally Posted by Foozinator

I know that there can be a big variation between Atlantic crossings, especially with variable weather. I just want to see what a typical crossing could be with your typical 40-43 foot cat.

The main reason I'm interested is that I'm planning on working from the boat, and satellite internet isn't really practical (yet).

I've seen crossings in the 18-21 day range, which would mean a leave of absence. That said, am I reading these 2011 ARC results correctly? Down in the multihull section is a pair of Lagoon 420s that made the crossing in 9 1/2 days.

Maybe I'm reading it wrong or maybe the winds were crazy in 2011. My question is: is a sub 2-week crossing possible, assuming you pick a good time of the season (and the winds are in your favor)?

Yes, you are reading it wrong. What you are looking at is date where they arrived. They only give on that list the corrected time. For finding the real time you will have to find the day they departed and count the time till the day they arrived.

9 days and a half is an impossible time for a Lagoon, by a huge margin. Just to give you an idea the record time on the ARC was beaten this year by Rambler, a 88ft racing monohull that took 8 days and 6 hours.

This year you had a very well sailed Outremer 5X (60ft) skippered by a top racing sailor and he took about 13 days and 2 hours to make the passage.

[Just Another Sa]

Originally Posted by Foozinator

I know that there can be a big variation between Atlantic crossings, especially with variable weather. I just want to see what a typical crossing could be with your typical 40-43 foot cat.

The main reason I'm interested is that I'm planning on working from the boat, and satellite internet isn't really practical (yet).

I've seen crossings in the 18-21 day range, which would mean a leave of absence. That said, am I reading these 2011 ARC results correctly? Down in the multihull section is a pair of Lagoon 420s that made the crossing in 9 1/2 days.

Maybe I'm reading it wrong or maybe the winds were crazy in 2011. My question is: is a sub 2-week crossing possible, assuming you pick a good time of the season (and the winds are in your favor)?

Is a sub 2-week crossing possible for a typical 40-43 foot cruising cat?
No.
Is a sub 2-week crossing possible for a 40-43 foot racing cat?
Yes.
Is a sub 2-week crossing possible for any size cruising cat?
Yes.
From your link:
Phaedo Gunboat 66 start time 20.11 12:30 finish time 2.12. 05:15:17
which result 280.7547 hours of passage time for 2680 nautical mile nominal distance with an average speed 9.5457 knots.
Stadium Barreau 71 also managed to make sub 14 day passage time.

Is a sub 2-week crossing possible for any 40-43 foot cruising cat?
Probably, but not done in ARC 2011.

[arsenelupiga]

Originally Posted by Foozinator

I know that there can be a big variation between Atlantic crossings, especially with variable weather. I just want to see what a typical crossing could be with your typical 40-43 foot cat.

The main reason I'm interested is that I'm planning on working from the boat, and satellite internet isn't really practical (yet).

I've seen crossings in the 18-21 day range, which would mean a leave of absence. That said, am I reading these 2011 ARC results correctly? Down in the multihull section is a pair of Lagoon 420s that made the crossing in 9 1/2 days.

Maybe I'm reading it wrong or maybe the winds were crazy in 2011. My question is: is a sub 2-week crossing possible, assuming you pick a good time of the season (and the winds are in your favor)?

and you blogging in CF for $3 per hour, instead of trimming sail. No way even with ORANGE 100 ft racing cat.

Get better work that does not need large bandwidth first.

[FSMike]

Originally Posted by arsenelupiga

and you blogging in CF for $3 per hour, instead of trimming sail. No way even with ORANGE 100 ft racing cat.

Get better work that does not need large bandwidth first.

I interpreted the op's question to indicate that he did not intend to work while crossing, rather he wanted to know if he could cross in the span of two weeks (normal vacation) or if it would be longer (requiring a leave of absence).

[StuM]

Originally Posted by Polux

Yes, you are reading it wrong. What you are looking at is date where they arrived. They only give on that list the corrected time. For finding the real time you will have to find the day they departed and count the time till the day they arrived.

9 days and a half is an impossible time for a Lagoon, by a huge margin. Just to give you an idea the record time on the ARC was beaten this year by Rambler, a 88ft racing monohull that took 8 days and 6 hours.

Actually there is all the information you need there to work out their actual times.

Just divide the "Corrected Time" (days/hours:minutes:seconds) by the TCF (Time Correction Factor).

So
206 Zéro STRESS Lagoon 420 FRA 0.983 9/ 10:36:24 61.00 22/11:46:18 15

Finished on 9 Dec at 10:36:24.

They had a "corrected time" of 22 days, 11 hours, 46 minutes and 18 seconds with a TCF of 0.983, so their actual time was 22 days, 21 hours, 6 minutes and 23 seconds

SImilarly
204 Otto Marzo Lagoon 420 ITA 0.983 9/ 13:27:16 95.00 24/16:42:15 21

had an actual time of 25 days, 2 hours, 57 minutes and 16 seconds

[Factor]

Outremer 49 with owners and broker on board blogged at 13.5 days with motoring only at the end of the trip.

An outremer 45 reported 17 days Lanzarote to St Marteen

Richard woods took 18 days on his 10 metre eclipse (Tenerife to Barbados)

Couple of blokes took 18 days on a 20 foot beach cat.

A 9 metre catalac reported 29 days

And for the record, the record is 3 days 15Hrs Crewed and 5 days 2 hours solo, on a multi of course

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by Factor

And for the record, the record is 3 days 15Hrs Crewed

Good grief, thats 87 hours to do 2800 miles your talking QE2 speeds.

Foozinator, which way are you thinking of crossing the Atlantic? E-W or W-E?



Pete

[mikedefieslife]

29 days for the Catalac. Was it pulling a trailer along?

[Polux]

Originally Posted by Just Another Sa

Is a sub 2-week crossing possible for a typical 40-43 foot cruising cat?
No.
Is a sub 2-week crossing possible for a 40-43 foot racing cat?
Yes.
Is a sub 2-week crossing possible for any size cruising cat?
Yes.
From your link:
Phaedo Gunboat 66 start time 20.11 12:30 finish time 2.12. 05:15:17
which result 280.7547 hours of passage time for 2680 nautical mile nominal distance with an average speed 9.5457 knots.
Stadium Barreau 71 also managed to make sub 14 day passage time.

Is a sub 2-week crossing possible for any 40-43 foot cruising cat?
Probably, but not done in ARC 2011.

I guess you answer the question but complicated it with all those hours, The Gunboat 66 made it in 11 days an 17 hours. That ARC was a particularly fast one, with plenty of wind and that Gunboat 66 was one used for racing (Phaedo), was sailed on the ARC by his racing skipper.

That makes a good reference in what regards a big fast performance cat can do on the ARC.

[S/V Alchemy]

Originally Posted by Foozinator

I know that there can be a big variation between Atlantic crossings, especially with variable weather. I just want to see what a typical crossing could be with your typical 40-43 foot cat.

The main reason I'm interested is that I'm planning on working from the boat, and satellite internet isn't really practical (yet).

I've seen crossings in the 18-21 day range, which would mean a leave of absence. That said, am I reading these 2011 ARC results correctly? Down in the multihull section is a pair of Lagoon 420s that made the crossing in 9 1/2 days.

Maybe I'm reading it wrong or maybe the winds were crazy in 2011. My question is: is a sub 2-week crossing possible, assuming you pick a good time of the season (and the winds are in your favor)?

St. John's NF to west coast of Ireland is one thing; New York City to Southampton another. Define your terms better to get the benefit of experience.