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01-08-2014, 06:02
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Aug 1 Lake Superior Water Temp!
Well...here we are on August 1st, the surface water temperature at the Mid Superior buoy no. 45001 (60 nm Northeast of Hancock, MI) is 40 deg F.
Extremely cold and overcast weather all summer with a pervasive layer of fog on the lake has resulted in minimal solar heating of the top layers.
Contrast this with 65 deg F temp on the same date on 2012. A astounding 25 deg F delta.
Ref. Marine Buoy Forecast | Weather Underground
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01-08-2014, 06:41
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Re: Aug 1 Lake Superior Water Temp!
Need to move man. I can't stand it in the Winter when the water temps down here get into the low 70's. I imagine you just can't have a warm day with 40 degree water cooling the air
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01-08-2014, 07:23
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Re: Aug 1 Lake Superior Water Temp!
On July 28-29/14, Muskegon's buoy thermometer recorded a water temperature drop from near 60 degrees to around 41 degrees in 24 hours.
I’d suppose, not as accurate as a Sea Buoy, but the MSU Remote Sensing Surface Temperature Map shows a temperature of only 32.2º F, just south of E. Otter Cove (86ºW x 48º N)
➥ Michigan Sea Grant Coastwatch
The average annual water temperature of Lake Superior is about 40º F.
The all-time daily average high temperature record for Lake Superior is 71°F, which was recorded in mid-August 2010.
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01-08-2014, 09:48
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Re: Aug 1 Lake Superior Water Temp!
Incredibly beautiful lake, but the cold water and black flies, have encouraged me to cruise else where.
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01-08-2014, 09:50
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Re: Aug 1 Lake Superior Water Temp!
Temperature variation is of course to some degree normal, but here are some more:
As I type this, the Alert, Nunavat, Canada air temperature is 55 degrees F. At 82 degrees N. (Of course the sun is shining all day long)
Pretty much the entire Baltic Sea, at from 55 to 65 degrees N, is 65-70 F.
There is an area south southwest of Svalbard in the Arctic ocean about 100 x 50 miles across, that is about 60 F. At 78 degrees N. I guess because of an eddy or an upwelling, but still.
All data (except the surface temperature at Alert) are from the NCEP satellite page ( NCEP SST Analysis ) and as such will probably be suspect to many....
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01-08-2014, 10:26
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Re: Aug 1 Lake Superior Water Temp!
Lies you're all telling lies. Global Warming says none of this can happen so you must be lying.
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01-08-2014, 10:52
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Re: Aug 1 Lake Superior Water Temp!
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Originally Posted by ontherocks83
Lies you're all telling lies. Global Warming says none of this can happen so you must be lying.
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UMD (University of Minn - Duluth) got some pretty good press a few years ago talking about how the temperature of Lake Superior had been increasing due to the warming.
Well...this year it is decreasing due to the cooling! Not any articles so far about this new discovery.
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01-08-2014, 11:09
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Re: Aug 1 Lake Superior Water Temp!
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Originally Posted by ontherocks83
Lies you're all telling lies. Global Warming says none of this can happen so you must be lying.
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Nope the Global Warming experts say this is to be expected, as well as the absence of the devastating monthly storms we should have been seeing by now.
You wouldn't doubt the inventor of the internet would you
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01-08-2014, 12:35
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Re: Aug 1 Lake Superior Water Temp!
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I'll not respond as I don't think this was meant to be a political debate, and I believe if I do, I know the eventual outcome.
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Hey don't feel bad. At least you live in the south. I live in Kennedy country and have to fear speaking out.
And to keep it from getting political I will just be obnoxiously open about the obvious facts........Wow 40 degrees in August is so abnormally cold. That kind of cold is just shocking and unusually cold and not warm at all. I am glad it is warmer here even though it still has been cooler then normal and not hot.
Ok I'm done being a D*&^%$ B@#
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01-08-2014, 12:36
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Re: Aug 1 Lake Superior Water Temp!
Those water temps have lead many a story writer to lament that Lake Superior won't give up her dead. Imagine the water temps at the depths where many wrecks lie if the surface temps are so low.
I have know a few straight decker sailors who said many who work the boats never bothered to learn how to swim or even wear the cork jackets. What would be the point?
A couple years ago some SCUBA divers were on a wreck near Sturgeon Bay WI, in about 200'. The wreck, SS Lakeland, sank in 1924 & contains several new, off the assembly line, cars and some Canadian whiskey. Imagine their surprise when they found a motionless SCUBA diver near the wreck - dead. The body was still in the diving suit with all the gear attached. When the body was identified it turned out the man had disappeared during a dive nearly 14 years previously (1999). His body showed little signs of decay.
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01-08-2014, 13:11
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Re: Aug 1 Lake Superior Water Temp!
The process of decomposition of a corpse in cold water is called saponification which it appears has been bastardized to soapofication by many.
http://healthdrip.com/adipocere-or-saponification/
Lake Superior does not give up her dead if the dead are in deep water. In the deeper waters it is so cold that the bacteria that gives off the gases that float a body work so slowly that the little gas that is created per unit time diffuses out instead of collecting in a bubble.
Bodies in the shallower waters of Superior do float up on occasion.
This year in Lake Superior life jackets are used so the body can be located and you can be declared deceased. This means your heirs don't have to wait 5 or 7 years to get the inheritance.
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01-08-2014, 13:24
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Re: Aug 1 Lake Superior Water Temp!
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Originally Posted by LakeSuperior
This year in Lake Superior life jackets are used so the body can be located and you can be declared deceased. This means your heirs don't have to wait 5 or 7 years to get the inheritance.
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Well that's incredibly depressing.
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01-08-2014, 13:26
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Re: Aug 1 Lake Superior Water Temp!
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Originally Posted by ontherocks83
Well that's incredibly depressing.
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Historically it is known as "black humor."
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01-08-2014, 13:27
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Re: Aug 1 Lake Superior Water Temp!
Look up David Shaw's last dive, the recovery he was attempting the body had gone through this saponification, that may have contributed to Dave's demise
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01-08-2014, 13:33
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Re: Aug 1 Lake Superior Water Temp!
Quote:
Originally Posted by a64pilot
Look up David Shaw's last dive, the recovery he was attempting the body had gone through this saponification, that may have contributed to Dave's demise
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This is a mind boggling story especially for divers.
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