[capt lar]

Jim - Correct ! The boat was not bad, but without being able to launch and complete the survey, I was not willing to take over what I saw as the seller's problems. I also learned alot about Sabre's construction methods and the weaknesses. (all boats have 'em) Bottom line - I had IMO a better boat in better shape with better equipment for less $ in my Bristol 31.1 My point in this thread is I thought I had the numbers worked out. There were a handful of additional labor intensive problems to resolve (or ignore as the present owner chose to do) that really changed the value for me. The surveyor said the boat was typical and worth what I offered from what he could inspect.
I am coming to believe that 20 years is a critical point for many boats. If they have not been properly maintained, the typical problems with water infiltration are becoming critical. It really frustrates me to find rot at chain plates and mast steps where proper maintenance could have prevented the problem. The first couple of owners get away with it, but those issue become big problems - not my problems this time.

capt lar