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Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 16-09-2016, 14:32
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Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

My boat's optimum heel angle is between 20 and 25 degrees, so yes.

Any boat sailing at 15 degrees hit by a gust goes to 25, at least until the skipper can spill some wind.

But the at any rate...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 16-09-2016, 09:40
Replies: 138
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Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

I hear you.

My arbitrary controlled gybe cut-off limit in knots is LOA in feet. Beyond that I usually chicken gybe (tack from a broad reach through the wind and onto the opposite broad reach).
...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 16-09-2016, 06:34
Replies: 138
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Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

Zero.

The MOB recovery methods I have described are not reliant on the size of the body of water.

The vast majority of sailboats will never cross an ocean.

They still carry crew that may...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 16-09-2016, 03:28
Replies: 138
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Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

A competent sailor should be able to safely operate a properly found sailboat in open water in 20 knots in the average 20 ft boat, 30 knots in the average 30 ft, 40 knots in the average 40 ft. (Add...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 15-09-2016, 12:48
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Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

What complex sailing maneuver?

1. Tack
2. Gybe
3. Round a Mark
4. Heave To

These are all the most basic of sailing maneuvers.
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 15-09-2016, 12:43
Replies: 138
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Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

What complex sailing maneuver?

1. Tack
2. Gybe
3. Round a Mark
4. Heave To

These are all the most basic of sailing maneuvers.
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 15-09-2016, 10:25
Replies: 138
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Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

I disagree.

No special tools or training required at all.

For any reasonable size cruising boat, a life ring on 50 ft floating line is minimum mandatory safety equipment. If not mounted,...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 15-09-2016, 07:44
Replies: 138
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Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

Absolutely agree with the importance of a properly installed and used jackline, harness, and tether.

RULE 1: Keep everyone in the boat.
RULE 2: Keep the water out.

Follow these two Golden...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 15-09-2016, 05:27
Replies: 138
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Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

Yup, trying to throw a life ring with any accuracy and distance while wearing
Foul weather gear and PFD with harness and tether, in wind and waves, and avoiding obstructions like lifelines, Dodgers,...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 14-09-2016, 20:23
Replies: 138
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Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

If you are one of a double handed crew, the other goes over and you are not hove to, where is the boat going to go when you leave the helm?

Heaving to is the only option, else the boat is out of...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 14-09-2016, 18:45
Replies: 138
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Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

Easy, right after you hit the MOB button and toss the pole, turn 180. Head back to the MOB at full speed. Throw the life sling or life ring and trail it behind the boat. Still at full speed, round...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 13-09-2016, 10:40
Replies: 138
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Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

Sorry, I have to disagree vehemently.

1. When the sole remaining crew on a cruising boat turns from close hauled
to beam, the first thing that happens is the boat heels more and accelerates (away...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 13-09-2016, 06:18
Replies: 138
Views: 19,513
Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

I disagree. Going onto a beam reach is a fast point of sail AWAY from the MOB. Immediately turning onto a reciprocal course is the fastest return to the MOB.

In frigid waters an MOB has about 10...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 12-09-2016, 09:51
Replies: 138
Views: 19,513
Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

Yup, this thread has been a real eye opener for me, 2 additional questions I will now ask before agreeing to crew on a sailboat:

1. Are you confident you can perform an MOB under sail alone in 20...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 10-09-2016, 05:02
Replies: 138
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Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

My point is, it seemed to be the mindset of many that in any condition,
the first thing to do is start the engine and douse the sails. WRONG. It's a sail
boat and is most stable in rough conditions...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 09-09-2016, 09:04
Replies: 138
Views: 19,513
Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

I'm sorry but your advice is scaring the hell out of me, that someone may actually follow it if the situation arises. What is your experience? Your boat will sail far better in 20 knots with a single...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 09-09-2016, 07:24
Replies: 138
Views: 19,513
Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

I don't understand how a centre jackline can even work. What about the dodger, mast, vang, hatches, dorades, windlass, coachroof to foredeck transition, etc.?

With our jacklines (on all 3 boats...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 09-09-2016, 07:01
Replies: 138
Views: 19,513
Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

If one is not adequately skilled to sail up to an MOB in the conditions the boat is certainly capable of handling, they should not be out there. This means certain death for the MOB if the remaining...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 09-09-2016, 06:35
Replies: 138
Views: 19,513
Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

When sailing up to the MOB, if you are not close enough to heave to and drift toward them, (you should be able to, approaching an MOB
is no different than approaching a dock (except conditions
may...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 08-09-2016, 14:38
Replies: 138
Views: 19,513
Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

How long does your system take?

Lets assume double-handing, 20 knots, 6 ft seas on the beam, and you were aware the instant the MOB went over and reacted instantly.

1. Shift transmission to...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 08-09-2016, 10:20
Replies: 138
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Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

May wish to reconsider dropping sails.

The chance of a successful MOB recovery diminishes with every second lost.

Our MOB recovery execution is to:

1. Hit the chartplotter MOB button. (1/2...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 08-09-2016, 10:01
Replies: 138
Views: 19,513
Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

It is scary that someone carrying crew could have so little confidence they could successfully perform an MOB rescue.
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 07-09-2016, 20:27
Replies: 138
Views: 19,513
Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

Sailboats heel, pitch, roll, and yaw. I envision a human tether ball getting bashed against the mast in between dunks in the water either side.
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 07-09-2016, 18:16
Replies: 138
Views: 19,513
Posted By ramblinrod
Jackline Configuration

We have commercial jack lines. Forget the brand. They are stretched from the bow pulpit down each side of the cabin, back to the cockpit.

In rough conditions I am tethered to a hard point in the...
Forum: Health, Safety & Related Gear 07-09-2016, 13:01
Replies: 138
Views: 19,513
Posted By ramblinrod
Re: Has anyone ever fallen over tethered and tried to pull themselves back in?

This is what bothers me about these threads and magazine articles. Someone reads about someone being towed at 5 knots and thinks oh, tethers are bad therefore I won't use one. ********. A tether has...
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