Forum: Multihull Sailboats
24-03-2024, 12:29
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Replies: 17
Views: 2,023
Re: Lagoon 450F Operations in high winds
I manoeuvred quite a bid with my L450. Yes, the windage is high but at same time the boat is pretty heavy which is not good for sailing but she doesn't give much leeway when manoeuvring on side winds...
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Forum: Multihull Sailboats
06-03-2024, 13:59
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Replies: 31
Views: 5,621
Re: Are Catanas good??
Generally speaking old Catamas are a bit heavier. Many people are arguing on the helm position, I just love it. The biggest problem is the scarce view of the opposite bow when you manoeuvring or...
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Forum: Europe & Mediterranean
01-03-2024, 07:26
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Replies: 5
Views: 1,114
Re: Innocent passage in Turkey ?
This is true.. and I missed it. You will have to check in Turkey and check out. Althought since longtime the Greek authorities are not checking anymore the post of origin, you never know, it's not...
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Forum: Europe & Mediterranean
23-02-2024, 07:46
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Replies: 5
Views: 1,114
Re: Innocent passage in Turkey ?
No, you won't have any problem, put on yr turkish courtesy flag. The chances of coast guard to stop you are very slim. Even if they do, they are generally very tolerent particularly if you have a...
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Forum: Europe & Mediterranean
09-02-2024, 07:11
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Replies: 3
Views: 525
Re: Greek Bareboat advice
Istion is one of the best. But generally speaking, greek charter boats are not well serviced. April 24 will be pretty cold there particularly at nights. Check a boat with heater if possible....
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Forum: Multihull Sailboats
02-02-2024, 06:37
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Replies: 12
Views: 1,251
Re: Sunreef Performance Characteristics
I didnT sail Sunreef 50 but I have seen someone to try to sail at about 9-10 knts of wind. He tried everything and after half an hour took down the sails and motored..Nonetheless sshe should sail at...
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Forum: Multihull Sailboats
02-02-2024, 06:30
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Replies: 10
Views: 1,417
Re: BALI CATAMARAN Polar diagram
I have sailed with a 4.2 which was not loaded at all. The max I could get with all trimming effort was 5,6-5,8 at 14-15 kts true wind @ 70-80 degrees in almost flat water. These polars a bid...
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Forum: Multihull Sailboats
25-01-2024, 08:00
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Replies: 4
Views: 595
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Forum: Multihull Sailboats
08-01-2024, 07:31
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Replies: 4
Views: 627
Re: Charter Choice
I have sailed both cats, easy answer is that if you take Bali yr wife will be more than happy with the space you will geti the flybridge and the huge upright fridge. You will unfortunately be...
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Forum: Multihull Sailboats
03-12-2023, 22:10
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Replies: 7
Views: 1,924
Re: Lagoon 46 vs leopard 45
We recently did a lot of work on Leopard 45 and sailed a bit. I was on L 46 but didnt sailed. Leopard is a quite good boat in terms of build quality, probably a bit better than Lagoon. She also...
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Forum: Multihull Sailboats
13-10-2023, 08:29
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Replies: 5
Views: 875
Re: Orana 44 Sail Performance
I did appr 15.000 nm with an Orana and the Atlantic both ways. She sails reasonably well but usually requires a bit more than 10 kts true. If you take it from 60-70 degrees on a calm see, you can...
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Forum: Multihull Sailboats
08-09-2023, 07:01
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Replies: 237
Views: 31,734
Re: Performance of charter cats?
Catana is not the cat that I own, I have 4 others from FP, Nauthitec and Lagoon. I don't have a Bali but we had and still have two Balis in our fleet. None of them compare to Catana in terms of built...
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Forum: Multihull Sailboats
04-09-2023, 06:05
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Replies: 237
Views: 31,734
Re: Performance of charter cats?
I don't know how did you come to this conclusion between Outremer and Catana. I own a Catana and sailed extensively with a Outremer 51. Outremer had a carbon sails and revolving mast, mine doesn't...
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Forum: Multihull Sailboats
24-07-2023, 07:32
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Replies: 2
Views: 1,060
Re: Water in keel - Fountaine pajot Saona 2018
There is nothing to worry as far as you have the sacrifical keels like the ones on FP's. Theşir keel is filled with polurthane foam coverd with a thing GRP. They don't have any structural role and...
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Forum: Multihull Sailboats
24-07-2023, 07:28
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Replies: 26
Views: 5,301
Re: Outremer 45(48) vs Amel 53
Yr comparison base to start with is weird..Amel is a great mono , very solid, forgiving and not a "fast" one. Outremer on the other hand is one of the fastest catamarans and in strong winds you need...
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Forum: Multihull Sailboats
29-05-2023, 07:42
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Replies: 69
Views: 11,920
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Forum: Multihull Sailboats
12-05-2023, 07:13
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Replies: 69
Views: 11,920
Why is the build quality of cats deteriorating ?
Being in this industry for so many years and seen/sailed/serviced many different cats, I sadly see that the overall quality of every boat regardless the make and model are getting worse than ever...
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Forum: Multihull Sailboats
08-05-2023, 06:59
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Replies: 22
Views: 4,416
Re: SOG of Fountain Pajot 47
I have sailed a L450 but not Saona. I can tell 100% that Saona or L 450 can not make 17 kts of SOG with 20 kts of TW, it simply is impossible unless one surfs down a big waves. This speed is even...
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Forum: Europe
05-05-2023, 04:30
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Replies: 9
Views: 3,311
Re: Wintering in Turkey: An Inconvenient Truth
I agree on all what you said on marina prices and Didim is not the most expensive. In Göçek they have quoted 47.000 for Lagoon 46 for one year..
But the labour quality is probably the best in the...
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Forum: Europe & Mediterranean
28-04-2023, 04:38
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Replies: 3
Views: 782
Re: Turkey DIY/Live aboard boatyards
Hi,
Most marinas will not allow you neither to work on yr boat nor to sleep on board if the boat is on land. Obviously, small works like polishing, gel coat repairs, etc are no problem. Marinas's...
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Forum: Multihull Sailboats
02-04-2023, 15:15
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Replies: 59
Views: 14,155
Re: Nautitech build quality
Having sailed and or serviced almost all European brands, in terms of quality Nauthitec is about the same as the rest except Bali which is significantly worse. I haven't sailed 46 open but took my...
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Forum: Europe & Mediterranean
01-04-2023, 01:20
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Replies: 5
Views: 1,159
Re: 1 year boat rental in the Mediterranean??
You can probably find a boat to charter for a year. There could be couple of issues associated with this: as you will be far from the main base even from the base country most of the time, any repair...
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Forum: Multihull Sailboats
17-03-2023, 06:59
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Replies: 20
Views: 4,289
Re: Is purchase BALI CATAMARAN ?
Sorry but I've sailed any cat from Outremer's to Catana from Lagoon's to almost every FP. And we had three/four Bali's on our charter fleet, so I sailed them as well. Bali's are not even close to FP...
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Forum: Europe & Mediterranean
18-02-2023, 23:01
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Replies: 7
Views: 1,171
Re: Aeolian wind
Med winds are the most unpredictable ones, it can be from any direction and any direction any time of the year.. If yr primary goal is to sail, Meltemi in Greek and Turkish coast are much more...
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Forum: Europe & Mediterranean
10-02-2023, 08:25
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Replies: 2
Views: 783
Re: Cyprus
Larnaka should have a decent marina althought I haven't been there. On the Turkish parth, north of Cyprus, there is a Karpaz marina. It's quite big a well run marina, I was there 3-4 years ago. For...
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